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batting 1000

strange about the M/H giving you more stretch on mums

i have read the opposite from most saying the HPS gives better stretch for mums

im not saying one way or the other - personally in my next set up i am using a M/H on my mums cuz i want shorter clones - my though tis i might be able to veg them for a very short period b4 flower to get roots going faster and tighter nodes if the clones are not as tall (SOG)

your chilling the res seems interesting to me also - but if you topping off every other day the temp of your res must climb above 70 until the next top off- but i like the idea if it works - it would save on needing a chiller for each res

im not sure if it will work for me since my temps will be in the high 80s (co2) -- my res will get warmer much faster

do you have a 1/4 hp chiller running on your tank?

sounds like a nice set up

Batting1000

im not sure about HPS and MH thing. but we were talking about T-5 high output fluorescents vs MH for the internode distance on the moms. not HPS. And in this instance, i prefer the node distance of a MH.

The res does get warm before topping off. But its within range so no biggy...If it gets too warm. i empty some and just add more water to the res. The nutes are full strength at the first 2 days of feeding. then some are used and some are lost, etc. so i dont think having a weaker nute mix at the end of the week is a big deal (If anyone does, tell me).

I am using a 1/3 hp chiller...I always go bigger tan what i need.

I set up a grow for a friend simsilar to the one I am planning for myself.. I will get in there sat (if i remember) and takes some pics. I will show you my lolipops and try to get some veg pics and stuff. Buds are about 5 of 9 weeks over there now.

I just wanted to add....If you click on my name and go to 'all posts', i have pics of some old ScroG works that i used to do. Started with hydroton first (in a 4 ft tall attic!!!) and moved to rw(in a 4 ft tall Basement!!!). I say check em out because the trays in both setups are similar to what we talked about even though the one is using hydroton. Look around 3-06. I was doing "indian lights" in the attci and switching to "cough" in the basement. Then i bought another home and expanded to the 4 light setup we talk about now.

Dr. Funkenstein

Hello everyone. Sorry, I have not been around. Totally busy. So I took some time and drew up the new plans for the Flowering Room, if theres anything I should fix, let me know. I also decided to put together the plans for my Vegging Room, which will be built from a store-it-all cabinet. So for starters, here is the Flowering Room:


This is what I have in mind. I have the ballast mounted to a board, which will be suspended from the ceiling. Notice the clip on fan, and the positioning near the exaust duct. I'm looking for suggestions, any flaws in my design. If anyone has no objections, this is what I will most likely be going for.

Here is the outside view, looking at a 2x6 plywood plank I will be mounting on a portion of the doorway to mount the necessary equip. This way I figured, I could utilize the cool air that will be comming in from the closet doors, in the space between the doors and the panda plastic/rl lining. (tent-like doorway) to keep the equipment out of the heat. Plus I'm assuming this will also allow me to monitor everything while the girls are sleeping, since the controls will be outside of the grow, but still within the closet..



This is what I envision the inside looking like, the back of the plywood panel. I'm planning on checking out that 30 amp timer/breaker box you showed me, Batting1000, and I'm assuming I can plug everything into this, and actually only need to plug the 30 amp timer/breaker box into the house outlets, themselves. I'm very ignorant when it comes to the electrical side of things. Any help would be appreciated, as always. But to compliment the previous design, I've included the inside looking out. So you can picture it yourself before it comes to life.




Now here is my new project. The Vegging Room, Mothers/Babies/Cuttings. Fairly simple. It will be a Store-it-All storage cabinet, using T5s. The demensions are 4wX20"dX6h. The cab is originally partitioned down the middle, but I was thinking of sawing part of it out, to make room for a light.

I'm still unsure of what lights I could use for the cuttings, or the cloning chamber (CFL?or T5s?) It's going to be a cramped space. Here are the blueprints:



I was thinking of using a couple of aeroponic systems, one for the mothers on the right, one for the clones on the left. As for the cuttings, I was going to keep them in rw, and rooting gel, and water them manually. If the mothers are fully grown, and the light is no longer reaching the babies on the left, I will make a shelf in levels, to bring them closer.

Well here are my plans, let me know what you think. Hopefully this is it. Then its time to shop. Thanks guys!


Dr. Funkenstein


Also, how much is it going to cost me to run a single 1000wHPS as opposed to 2 - 600wHPS? Someone was saying 2-600w are much more efficient. Your thoughts?

bgb_123

they air coming through your hood is not getting scrubbed - you will ahve odor escaping

connect the fan directly to the scrubber - so it pulls air through scrubber - then the fan should push the air into your hood - after it goes through your hood it will goo out the exhuast hole in the top of the cabinet

your drawing looks like it has 2 ports for the fan??? one for the hood and one for the scrubber??? not needed

or you could:

connect the scrubber to one end of the hood connect the fan to the other and pull the air from the scrubber through the hood into the fan and out


so you can push or pull the air - some like one and some like the other - any other way and your thinking to hard

bgb_123

the veg room looks good

i got a little confused on the clones - first you said aeroponics (ezcloner) then you said RW and hand water

ezcloner is water temp sensative so you will need to keep room cool or invest in chiller to run one

the difference in your electric usage between the 1000watt light and the 2 600 watt light is very very small -- basicly your burning 200 watts more so its like leaving a dual flood light on in your yard all night

the difference in cost i feel is in the purchase of the lamps themselves

dont forget a small cfl for your clones - 1 bulb 2 ft long is my bet

bgb_123

i apologize - i just realized you have a fan pushing clean air into the hood - so my previous reference about you not scrubbing is untrue - what you have will work

personally - i would just install larger exhuast fan and get rid of the intake fan -

if the intake is to high and the exhuast after being pulled through hood and scrubber and length of duct isnt strong enough you will get possitive pressure

meaning your pushing more air in then you are pulling out and the room will pressurinze like a balloon that leaks - then the air/smell will leak out of the cracks in the room

not to say your design isnt good - you just need to be carefull to get you fan sizing right

i hold a sheet of paper up to my cab - if it doesnt pull the paper into the cab from the crackes in the doors - then i no i need a stronger exhaust fan

Batting1000

all of those designs seems a little flawed. The best one is the vegging and mother chamber. Simple fan at one end pulling air thru a scrubber and a hood. Scrubber needs to be after the hood and before fan. All attached with insulated flex-duct. Get a hood that has 6 in flanges of it for ductwork and seal it tight. Set up the flowering room the same.

Eliminate the intake fan.. Waste of money if the exhaust fan works right.

Use an average fluorescent shop light for the clones (NO T-5) or you will burn em.

If the cab is still 3x4, i say a 1000w. You can get a 3x3 hydro tray and it will fit perfectly. And its also only 1 hood and bulb and ballast to buy. (cheaper than a 600 too!)

The timer box may be over kill too. It needs a 30 amp Dryer plug to work. If you can..just run 2 more circuits from ur main box to there. Use one for the 1000w and thats it. Use another for the lights and fans for moms and veg. And the one that is already ther, use for the other peripherals, pumps etc.. The plugs on that box turn on and off with the unit and it will shut ur fans off every 12 hours if they are plugged into it. That box is more for larger grows to run multiple ballasts and exhaust fans.

Gettin close.

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Frustrated. Thanks for all your help. I'm just anxious to get all this planning out of the way and start seeing everything come to life. Like a wise man once said: "I love it when a plan comes together."

Dr. Funkenstein