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Old 01-04-2007, 11:14 AM   #1
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anyone ever tried to culitivate this poppy hydroponically indoors? Any suggestions? Got some seeds and would like to grow it in my indoor garden

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I haven't tried myself, but I've looked into it. Just be careful as P. somniferum is a schedule II substance in the US.

Papaver Somniferum: Exploring the impact of the opium poppy on society
That's Poppycock! - The e-Guide to Opiates and Opioids
Erowid Poppy Vault : Article #1

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I was rereading the cultivation guide at Erowid (third link above), and I'm really surprised at the similarities between growing P. somniferum and .

"When [the latex] reaches the consistency of hashish, it is ready for storage, or whatever one wishes to do with opium."

"[Opioid extraction] is much the same method by which hash oil is derived from marijuana."
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I'm sure you need to refine/purify /purge it of somthing poisinous. I heard a tale of a guy who consumed the product of milking popies and ended up in toxic shock, came close to death and needed hot coffee enamas (poured into his ass) to relax his knoted colon - be careful man.
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This summer I was looking at a flower bouquet and realized, holy crap there's golf ball sized poppy pods in that thing. I shook one and it was full of seed. It was too tempting to try planting some, so I broght them home. These seeds are tiny, and the germination rate is really poor (at least from the florist...). They also took a few weeks to germinate. In fact I gave up on them and planted other stuff in there a few days before the first of them sprouted. There was a near 100% attrition rate on the survivors, but I did salvage one. It has been almost eaten by snails, drowned in the rain and narrowly missed a major frost, but now it's sitting on a windowsill and is the biggest it's ever been, but that's not saying much. Presumably it'll take off like a rocket once it goes outside in the spring, and probably flower.

As I understand it you need to grow a crapload of poppies to get an appreciable harvest out of the things, and it's not really worthwhile to grow them under artificial lighting because you can legally buy poppy pods online relatively cheaply (look for 'poppy pod' on ebay: if the seller uses a lighter for scale, what do you think it's for? ). Appearantly they're legal to have for floral, art and food (the seed) purposes as long as you don't cut them to milk the sap or do anything else to purify it.

I'd only use a poppy medicinally if I hit my thumb with a hammer or something with similar lasting pain, but not worth going to the hospital where they have better things. Or the world goes to heck and you have to grow your own medicines.

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I'm sure you need to refine/purify /purge it of somthing poisinous. I heard a tale of a guy who consumed the product of milking popies and ended up in toxic shock, came close to death and needed hot coffee enamas (poured into his ass) to relax his knoted colon - be careful man.
Nope. You can lick the latex straight off the pods once you score them. No purification, et cetera needed. That's what makes it opium. Purifying it would get you something .

Also, I really doubt anyone had hot coffee poured into their rectum, but it is worth noting that all opioids slow the GI tract and can cause constipation. Take a mild laxative if you're going to smoke a few bowls over a few days.
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