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![]() | I hope what iam about to ask is not illegal. If so iam sorry. My question is this: Is it possible to manufacture pure THC crystal? If so, dose anyone know where I could find out the information to do so. And what chemicals would I need. Thanks alot. | ||
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![]() | No, it's never illegal in the US to ask a question! Freedom of speech is protected by the 1st ammendment! Anyways, it is not possible to manufacture pure THC crystal. The only way to make THC is to grow the cannabis sativa plant. | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | GR is correct excpet that any cannabis plant produces THC ... Sativa, Indica, Ruderalis, and plain ol' Hemp ... they just produce THC at differnet potencies ![]() The LEOs (man I just hate giving them such an proud name!) say that 20 some years ago the THC level of the most potent plants were like around 5%-8% and today that percentage is in the low 20%s. Don't know if I hardly agree with that but I can see the jest of it if people have been breeding for potency for over 20 years coupled with the fact the growing equipment and techniques continue to improve that such a thing is indeed possible Depsite their attempts to slander the Sweet Leaf people are still attracted to it and will continue to cultivate it and improve upon as time goes on. But on that same note more and more people are creating more and more crosses which may actually be eliminating certain pure strains. Romulan and G13 are good examples of how certain strains have been lost due to teh neem to improve their smoke. Dope will get you through times of no money better thsn money will get you through times of no dope ![]() LB
__________________ Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope Pass the Roots and Hit the Culture ![]() Catagory 5 Survivor | ||
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![]() | While you can't grow pure THC you can manufacture something close. There is a book titled marijuana alchemy that gives very detailed instruction on the extraction and purification of thc however as far as I remember the thc is always dissolved in something so as far as crystal thc I am not sure you could produce that and not sure how good it would be if you did. oxidation might degrade it too quickly to make it worth while to produce | ||
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oh yeah and here is something I downloaded off the web from somewhere How to make Honey Oil The Boffo Butane-PVC Hash Oil Extractor Trash leaf to honey oil in minutes by Indra This method has its basis in a fascinating industrial extractionmethod known as Supercritical Fluid Extraction. It uses totally over-the-counter butane gas (8 oz can, camping supply store,US$4.50)as the extraction solvent, and requires nothing even remotely suspicious or difficult to purchase. The only other thing needed isabout $2.00 worth of PVC pipe: a section 1.5 (one and a half) feet long and 1 & 3/4" diameter (outer diameter I believe), and two end caps. Threaded PVC is not necessary. For reasons not yet clear to those of us investigating these things"unofficially," butane and CO2 (and perhaps other gas/solvents with similar ultra-low-boiling properties) selectively solvate the desirable fraction(s) of cannabis oils, pulling out only a beautiful amber "honey oil" and leaving the undesirable vegetative oils, waxes, chlorophyll, etc. behind in the plant matter. Even unsmokeable shade leaves produce a wonderfully clean and potent gold oil with this method.(So if you grow save those shade leaves!) I have every reason to suspect that this would work splendidly to extract a super-strong and tasty oil from gross, unpalatable "schwag" commercial pot too, and of course, the better grade of herb you put it in, the better the resulting oil. METHOD: 1) In one of the PVC end caps, drill a single small hole in the center. This hole should be correctly sized to snugly receive the little outlet nozzle of your butane can. 2) In the other end cap, drill a group of 5 or 6 small holes clustered in the center (like a pepper shaker). 3) After putting a piece of paper towel or coffee filter inside it for filtration, put the end cap with several holes on one end of the pipe. Push it on there real tight. This is the bottom. 4) Fill the pipe up with plant matter that has been pulverized into a coarse powder. You want it filled, but not packed down. (Full pipe estimated at 1.5 oz capacity, but this is a guess. I did not weigh it.) 5) Place the top end cap on the pipe. Again, push it on as securely as you can by hand. 6) Find a location outdoors with a decent breeze. You want these butane fumes to be quickly carried away. Seriously. 6a) Mount the pipe (single hole-side up) over a vessel that can hold 300mL+. Beakers are perfect. A lab stand and clamp are ideal for the mounting, but a regular shop clamp or anything that can hold it sturdily is fine. (Avoid metal if you can, to reduce the chance of sparks.) Position the bottom end of the pipe immediately over (1-2") the receiving vessel to eliminate splatter loss. 7) Turn the butane gas can upside down and dispense the gas into the pipe via the single top hole. A whole 8-oz can takes about 10-12 seconds to evacuate. Be brave, swift, and careful. A spark at this moment would spell disaster since you have basically created an incendiary explosive device that is leaking. 8) When you've exhausted the can into the pipe, back off to a nice distance and let it do its thing. The butane moves down the pipe, extracting the cannabis as it goes. When it gets to the bottom (~30 seconds after dispensing), it begins to drain into the receiving vessel. Notice the pale, glowing yellow-green-gold hue of the extract. It is obvious no chlorophyll was pulled out of the herb. Over approximately five to eight minutes, the butane extract willfinish draining from the pipe to thereceiving vessel. Maintaincaution with the pipe, however, since there is a lot of residualbutane stillevaporating from within the pipe (notice the stream of fumescoming from the top hole). When it slows down to a drop every fewseconds, you can tap on the top hole with your finger and it willhelp push the last of the liquid butane out (or one can gently blow intothe top hole to do the same thing). Remember, NO SMOKING, unless youwish to immolate yourself in grand fashion. Being very low-boiling and volatile, the collected butane will likely begin boiling at ambient temperature. The receiving vessel will gradually frost up as the butane cools it down, slowing down its rate of evaporation, but you can speed this up again simply by holding it in your hands. A better way is to set it in a saucepan containing a little bit of warm water. Watch the butane start bubbling madly with the increase in temperature and marvel at its low boiling point. Again, be doing this outdoors with a nice breeze! It takes about 20 minutes or so to allow the butane to evaporate, or quicker if you help it along. You are left with a deep amber, almost orange oil of amazing purity. The best way to collect and store the oil is probably to let all of the butane evaporate off and then redissolve the oil in some anhydrous or high-% alcohol, and then pour this into a vial and let it sit out for a day or two to allow the alcohol to evaporate. Trying to transfer the oil into a small container while it is still solvated by the butane is too risky. I learned the hard way about this, thanks to the volatile temperament of butane. I had filled a vial almost all the way to the top and was preparing to drop those last couple drops in, so that cleverly, I could let the last of the butane evaporate from the vial and the oil would all be neatly contained. But when the last drop hit the mother lode in the vial, it changed the temperature of the solution in the vial upward by a hair and it all "superboiled" out of the vial and onto my fingers, which of course startled me and caused me to drop the vial. I suggest dissolving it in alcohol as I mentioned above. If you can get pure or 99% isopropanol (isopropyl), use it, because THC's photosensitivity reportedly does not occur in isopropanol. The final product is a deep yellow-amber oil of the highest quality, incredibly pure and potent. I remember well some of the prime "honey oil" hash oils that hit the market in the late 1970s, and this stuff stands up to (if not exceeds) any of them. It's amazing how this method extracts only the good fraction and leaves the junk in the weed. But that's exactly what it does. Note also that this oil has a somewhat higher melt/vaporization point than traditional hash oils; the traditional dispensing method (dipping a needle or paper clip in, getting some goop on the end, and warming it with a flame to get it to drip off into your bowl) still works with this stuff, but it seems you have to be more careful with it because it doesn't heat to liquid state as quickly or in the same manner, and it can more easily be allowed to burn up on your needle. So be careful. Those who prefer a tincture-like preparation can of course thin the product a little with a bit of warm high-percentage alcohol like Everclear or 90-whatever-% isopropyl, then drop it onto buds or let a joint absorb some, then let the alcohol evaporate. I also observed that unlike hash oil derived from traditional methods, this product is not immediately soluble in room-temp alcohol; it needed to be warmed before it dissolved fully. So there it is. Spread the word far and wide: honey oil is BACK | ||
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![]() | My thanks goes out to all of you for your help. Iam looking into some of the techniches you have all told me about. I will also look at getting that book. ANDERS | ||
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![]() | I believe what is very close to pure synthetic THC is available on prescription and is called "nabilone". It is licensed in the UK as an anti-emetic (drug that stops you throwing up) for use in chemotherapy. Interestingly I don't think nabilone is classed as a controlled drug, but it is normally restricted to hospital use only (i.e the local pharmacy probably will not stock it). It is probably licensed for other purposes in other countries. Hope this helps ![]() | ||
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