healingnation

Hey all. Man oh man, my aching back, my aching knees! Woa that water is heavy.

SO... I've heard tell of various irrigation techniques used in guerrilla type grows. Read a couple times that browndirtwarrior had some setup with a bucket in a stream and a hose and good water pressure but I can't seem to find it online (I'm not hugely adept at internet use), and wonder if anyone can describe in detail how this works or else where exactly to find this information. There is a stream that could possibly be put to use so that I would need to visit less often and also save my aging self the backbreaking aspects of the thing. If I could get good pressure then I could do a drip system and use battery operated timers.

So advice and experiences and or directions on where to find this information would be gratefully appreciated!

PEACE

ILLEGAL-SEED

browndirts method is simple and uses no electric or pumps at all.

all you need is a bucket, tubeing, and a small waterfall.

you need a small hole at the bottom of the bucket. i like to make it on the side. just big enough to fit the tube in.

then you just need a place to place the bucket. any small dropoff/waterfall will work.

thats it...just need a tube that will reach your plants.

healingnation

Sounds simple but I wonder if that it will be enough pressure to get it up hill a little. Or maybe I don't completely understand (actually this is likely, I don't understand). So I assume it is a bucket without a lid and is just constantly getting a stream of water into it so it is full all the time? Or is there a lid with holes to let water in so that pressure forms?
Suppose I was thinking that having a hose spicket coming out of the bucket would allow me to use a battery timer so that the plants aren't constantly getting water, just getting water some of the time so as to avoid overwatering. I have one of those garden hose timers laying around the place I could use.
Oh, I'm afraid I am a bear of very little brain as this sounds confusing to me. I just can't picture how it would work. Is it a 5 gallon bucket? Or a huge big one?

ILLEGAL-SEED

well he used a 5 gallon without a lid. just letting the water constantly flow in and keep it filled. id imagine the bigger the bucket the more pressure to push the water uphills. dont know how big of a hill were talking about though.

to put this on a timer would be hard. if you want it timed, a pump of some sort might be best.

countyspud

There is actually a mathematical formula you can use which will factor in the volume of your column of water (in the bucket), the pressure produced out of the given sized hole in the bottom of the bucket, while factoring in the incline of your hill.
So then you can figure out how tall a bucket you need to get the water up where you want it.

As I recall from scuba diving class, 33 ft equals one atmosphere and 15.6 PSI of pressure.

Don't ask me to do any ciphering but I imagine some web research would yield the answer if you really wanna know.
So a 1/2 inch hose with 10psi of pressure at the source going up a 15 degree incline will have how much pressure 100 feet away for example.

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ranga_kshu

Lool! Boys! stop with the physics already! Archimedes had done the thinking before ya so no need to reinvent the wheel!
It is this simple: If the level of the exit hole of the tube is lower then the level of the water in the bucket it will work, if not it won't!

Ups! sorry Pascal! It is Pascal's principle of communicating vessels not Archimedes!

healingnation

ranga the issue is that the water will need enough pressure to make it up a hill. And also suffice to deliver enough water to the number of plants I will have out.

So anyhow, this is what I've settled on. I have a plastic 50 gallon barrel that has been cut so that it is a 30 gallon tub. Near the bottom I drilled a hole in the side and attached a water spigot. Attached to this spigot thread will be a battery operated watering timer and my drip irrigation tubing will be attached to the timer. I figure the tubing is small enough, and the pressure from 30 gallons should be great enough, to get it up the hill after it has dropped downhill a good distance. Stream is choked with thorny brush and should remain well camouflaged through autumn. 30 gallon container will be under a small waterfall. I figure that even if the flow on this small stream drops dramatically, which it likely will, a 30 gallon container is large enough to pool enough water even from a trickle, especially considering that it will be on a timer so the plants only get watered once a day while I'm gone.

Now all I need is to pray to the cannagoddesses to please smile upon me and give me a good year. No helicopters, no sheriff, no rippers, no mold. Everyone knows I need a good year this year.

Peace.

reederx

I am very very interested in this concept. If you can get water to go up over a hill (or a rise, gentle slope, etc.) with this method, I will be super-impressed!
I'm not doubting it can be done with the right equipment and technique, I have just never been able to figure that out for myself.

As long as the destination (your plants) is higher in elevation than the point of origination (the stream/creek/river), I just don't understand how it can work. I'm pretty sure I just don't get it, not saying it cannot be done or anyone here is wrong.
I just want to see/hear about how it's done.

Thankee Sai,

reederx

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healingnation

I'll let you know. Situation is that the 30 gallon container will be upstream/uphill of where the plants are. It will be hundreds of feet of irrigation tubing going downhill a good distance before going up the side of a hill. Steep country here so it will be a good drop from the source (30 gallon container) and comparatively small rise up off the stream lower down where the plants are.

healingnation

The getup is a success! This photo is near the farthest point from the tub and up on a hillside.

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