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Old 07-07-2009, 01:24 PM   #1
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Is there such a thing as "too hot" to grow outdoors in a container?
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I've been trying to do some outdoor growing in containers and was successful in flowering some Bubblegum last winter. Where I am, it can be over 115F during the day in summer, but rarely over 110F for any extended period (~10 days).

I have several things like ficus and others in pots of various sizes from 3" round to 7gal. They seem to do fine but definitely need water. When I try to do the same with MJ, they all die eventually and I don't know why.

My latest experiment involved germing a seed in my veg garden outside, then transplanting into a pot. Same result. I thought maybe if it started it's life outside, it would be ok. My last attempts prior to that involved taking a clone from inside to out.

I've suspected pH in my soil since symptoms of leaf burn, wilt, etc come on fast and kill her within about 5 days. But my latest attempt was with FFOF soil.

I know MJ will grow natively outside in these parts, but why not in a container?

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It happens outdoors because roots are getting too hot in containers.

Have you tried using white ones? Or painting them white?

Making sure they drain well so they arent sitting in hot water?

Watering frequently? (like a gallon daily)

I have a couple outside in containers this year and they werent doing good at the start of summer.

It was about two weeks of pounding sun at first and they didnt respond well unless i pouring water to them non stop.

Also covering the buckets with a cloth to shade it helped alot.
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It happens outdoors because roots are getting too hot in containers.
Maybe bury containers? Never tried it, but an idea. We fear frost in July 'round here.
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It happens outdoors because roots are getting too hot in containers.

Have you tried using white ones? Or painting them white?

Making sure they drain well so they arent sitting in hot water?

Watering frequently? (like a gallon daily)

I have a couple outside in containers this year and they werent doing good at the start of summer.

It was about two weeks of pounding sun at first and they didnt respond well unless i pouring water to them non stop.

Also covering the buckets with a cloth to shade it helped alot.
I painted them camouflage and put them so that the pot was largely covered by a ground cover plant I have. All have good drainage also but I haven't tried daily watering. Hmmmm.

Are MJs roots more sensitive than a ficus? Would putting the pot inside another pot with say 1" of space difference help?
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Hey guys & gals! I worked for a wholesale nursery in hot/sunny Texas for years -- there everything was grown in black pots ( 1 gal to 45 gal), even BIG trees!!!! Takes LOTS of water to keep 'em alive...I know, I was the "water guy" back then.......... I don't know if this helps?
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Yes.. Grass has more sensitive roots than a ficas for sure!

I have had a ficas in a large pot in my house for about 6 or 7 years. Its huge now.. and that thing has taken UNBELIEVABLE abuse!

My friends used to dump beer in it to be smart asses. Put out cigarettes in the dirt on me.

It also remained VERY rootbound for almost a whole year and never missed a beat of growth.

Id have to say quite surely that Ficas are more resiliant to stresses in the rootzone than MJ.

Id try bumping up your watering schedule if they are doin bad still.

I am in weather that tops out at 90 on our hott days and when that weather was happening i was putting a gallon milk jug of water into the 5 gallon buckets every day.

THey were pale and drooping before that and the water helped them a ton. One was even in a black 5 gallon bucket and managed to make it through that little heat wave successfully.
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It never gets that hot here but with well-drained soil in black growbags or pots larger plants can suck alot of water quickly.

Tripps made an excellent suggestion to bury the pots. I bury my growbags and cover them
with moss..keeps the soil cool and holds moisture for longer.
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question for you GUERILLA...

I was thinking of tryin to grow a plant the size of a small tree next year.

You ever successfully set one of those bags into the ground and then cut it off the rootball to transplant a big mass of roots?

Im thinking of vegging a plant in one of them (10 Gal. bag) for 4 months. LST the shit out of it. Then attempt to somehow get it out of its container and into the ground for the next 4-5 months.
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You ever successfully set one of those bags into the ground and then cut it off the rootball to transplant a big mass of roots?

Not meaning to jack thread Choader, but to answer Treadwells question, I just transplanted a Kali x Chunk that was growing indoors in a 12 gallon plastic tub, into the ground yesterday. She is sitting at about 4 feet tall. I will give her a week to adjust then LST. I just popped the whole root mass/soil ball out, loosened up the root ball and transplanted. I will let you know how she fares out, but I see no issues....should be fine, pic attached

Choader: I think starting from seed is your problem....IMO this is the only stage where MJ is sensitive....best if you can start from a clone that has been under some lights and grown to 6" or better, acclimate over a week or so, then transplant into a pot.
based upon your environmental conditions, if you can try and set up a drip water system to ensure the plants get all the water they need, I am sure this will increase your odds....tend to agree with others that things are drying out...
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You have any problems with the rootball breaking on you?

That was my concern, and the reason i thought of using the bags.

Just sort of afraid that if i try to pop a giant mass of roots out of a pot and then get it into a hole that itll break apart under its own weight.
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