Montanita

Greetings ~

After many years of smoking, a few years of growing in soil indoors, and a move to the wonderful country of Ecuador (on the equator as the name implies) I am i a position to consider growing outdoors.

I have access to a lot of bag seed -- in fact the weed I get from Columbia and Peru is good but so much is packed in that like most "brick weed" it lost it's trichomes and just isn;t grown with TLC.

Now here is the question, I am living in a locale where 12/12 is the norm -- every day of the year. Great for vegetation but how will it effect going to flower? We have a wet season (December to Feb) and this year an El Nino is expected (more rain then normal) so perhaps the drying out will make a difference. Dunno...

The other problem is the birds...can't simply scatter seed because the parrots and parakeets will simply feast and sing

So I am guessing I will need to germinate and grow and then plant up and down the hill side ...

And then there is watering --- if I am doing this now before rainy season, I will need to have a way to water these plants. Could put them in the drainage ditch from the "grey water" drainage -- laundry water and shower water -- .

So -- My outdoor gardener friends...Any advice? Comments? Anyone wanna come hangout? I run a B&B on the Pacific coast... chill at the pool, take a dip in the Ocean, surf if you know how, ...and that's just in my own backyard

...life is good

bioswizard

I would germinate them and start them indoors. Once they get to a decent size (and strength) transplant them to a nice sunny spot! The more sun they can get, the faster they are going to grow outdoors. If you can get them started indoors on a 24hr cycle, it will only help speed the process up!

i want to...but have no passport

IDKwatImDoing

Jus so u kno man 12/12 isnt good for veg. Its terrible actually. Its perfect for flowering. 24hrs or 18/6 is for veg. Im going with wat the other guy said and start them inside. Most outdoor growers do this anyways. For the given reason that you need to get a good plant started. Other than that u sound golden.

Start inside, veg for say 4-5 weeks at most and transplant to your favorite spot. Good luck

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IDKwatImDoing

O, and your water, it doesnt just need to b wet but needs to b balanced. Im willing to bet that laundry water with soap and dirt in it isnt good at all for MJ. u need water that has a PH of around 6.5 for soil grows and about 5.5-5.8 for hydro.

With that said, alot of ppl find that bottled water is always right about at 6.5. Freash water from your tap would b a better bet than the laundry water holms. Best of luck hope i was some help atleast

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Montanita

Ah now you see there's the rub:

There is no place to do an indoor grow - and no access to the lights that would be necessary. We have no Home Depots or Lowes in this part of the world and all our street lamps are well noticed and accounted for.

In addition our soil is very alkaloid being that we are on the coast and are predominantly alluvial plain into the sea, except for where areas of lava rock.

To summarize then the issues I have to deal with are continual 12/12 and water availability. No ability to either extend or limit light to induce flowering, hoepfully planiting from local bag seed they will self flower after a period of vegetative growth -- and a need to water the plants without too much difficulty while keeping them out of the decorative garden area which has irrigation but little run off (as good irrigation should.)

With those constraints -- and currently bag seed from I am assuming the Andes when I am on the Coast -- I may be about to discover just why there aren;t growers in my neck of the woods .

On the other hand -- my flowering plants do quite well -- roses, geraniums and other perennials are knockout.

As for using grey water, the "dirt" and soap is not a problem. Most dirt is nothing more than -- well, outside dirt. Soaps, when used in moderation, are not damaging if well diluted as they are from washing machines which run double cycles rinsing, and in fact have some "nutrients" wash out with all that "dirt and soap." Grey water has been used for irrigation in water restricted areas for a long time, it works fine for large area watering needs (wouldn't necessarily use it for miniature amazonian orchids or especially sensitive alpine flowers but for the most part, grasses, trees, shrubs, and weeds...works fine)

and HEY...get a passport -- easier and cheaper to get when you aren't in a rush

BCGuerillaGrowa

Sorry to hear about the weed situation there.

My advice to you though would be browse the forums for any
questions you may have before asking them.

You'll find most have been answered and your questions
are very broad in general.

Do a bit of research my friend.

Montanita

Actually the weed situation is fine. It is available and not overly expensive. The thrill however is in actually producing your own crop and enjoying the fruits of ones own labor, don;t you agree friend?

Your suggestion to search the vast library of knowledge acquired over the past 4 years at Garden Secure and the previous 5 years as Hempcultivation is always a proper suggestion to a newbie grower.

The issues raised are because I am seeking advice and suggestions from other seasoned outdoor gardeners based on their personal experience with this specific plant. More specifically their familiarity with growing in seaside coastal water-stressed environments; and possible theories on how best to handle growing at the equator where the trigger to flower cannot be "shorter days."

Perhaps the matter of irrigation is a common one, but I believe equatorial farming techniques would be far from a general matter by definition.

If I have placed this query in the incorrect forum, please advise me, and I would request assistance from a Mod to move to the correct thread.

Be well,

Montanita

Montanita

Just stepped back and re read the above conversation ...I'm am so coming across in ths wrong way

The constraints of this system make communicationt hat should be coming out loose easy and friendly appear vulgar haughty and hubristic.

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS RESPONDED TO THIS THREAD!!!

All your is very much apprreciated and your advice considered and that is still money in this part of the world.

Van Omen

If I were you, I'd just go for it. The best way to learn is by trying, and then learning from your mistakes.

Sprout the seeds in a napkin and then put them in the best soil you can find. Maybe even mix in a little cleaned beach sand (kinda like using vermaculite?). Many people growing indoors under hid lighting go 12/12 from start to end. I'm a beginner myself, so I do wish I had better advice to offer.

I'm very interested in Ecuador though. I wanna get the hell out of the usa for a bit(after I harvest ofcourse). But I dont have enough money to go on a full blown vacation. How hard is it to find a simple job in your parts? You know, just something to keep me fed, housed and keep my mind feeling good for the time I stay. Because, honestly its getting pretty hard for me to get by in southern california.

Treadwell

Ive read alot of entires in other places online that actually say its possible to start seedling directly into 12/12 lighting and you can still produce buds.

Somone has obviously tried it and succeeded if there is available grass down there already and no one is capable of doing it indoors.

If your in a tropical region that might make up for the fact that they are diving into imediate 12/12 from sprouting and the short light hours.

Youll be getting shorter hours but brighter and more direct sunlight there than we are in the states.

Id start an assload of seed, condition the soil and plant.

Like i said, its working for other ppl there if there are bales for sale.

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