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Old 10-14-2009, 12:18 PM   #1
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I am just wondering if someone can tell me what it is that causes mutant fan leaves. All of my plants are clones from the same mother, flowering 2-6 weeks (staggered). The "older" ones have fan leaf sets from one to seven, odd # and uneven. The youngest are all typical 5 & 7 leaf sets. All are thriving and I have no concern for their health, just wondering what the causes it.
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:23 PM   #2
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:36 PM   #3
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If you look at that smiley, next to the words "Impure thoughts." It can almost be mistaken as something other than air guitar...

Usually 1-3 finger leaves will pop up during a reveg. Maybe sometimes during damage to a node. I've had some random weird growth before. If the plant is growing good, I wouldn't worry about it.
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No mistake about it.
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:34 PM   #5
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Hmm, impure thoughts, that makes sense... I have loads of those.
And I wasn't worried, just curious.
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Impure thoughts? I'm really into 'em myself.

As Pipeworks pointed out, reveg is where the 1/3/5 bangers usually show up. With a full reveg from a harvested plant, singles and triples are about all you're gonna see for a few weeks until the plant stops freaking out, settles down and starts sending up some familiar looking shoots. But there are other, subtler reveg situations.

For instance, early flowers can begin showing up on a shaded area of a plant (cloned plants in particular), while the balance of the plant that is receiving adequate light at the right duration, remains in vegetative. When the flowering area is exposed to adequate light, the flower areas morph into single, resinous leaves that look like dark green tortellini as they uncurl. I don't know if that helps, but it sure did me some good getting it all off my chest.

Oh. BTW. I have both processes- full reveg of harvested and cycle resets- going on ATM.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:15 AM   #7
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Thanks for the explanation GangaGardener... it all makes sense now. Mum has had a chance to settle down, that's why the newest clones are "normal".
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GG is 100% correct. I had a few in this years outdoor grow....first exhibited reveg with 1-3 blades per leaf and curled up flowers etc....

I ferted these pretty heavy and esentially a whole new plant dveloped with normal leaves and traits. The reveg part of theplant never really matured properly, but the new growth produced some decent yields non the less.

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Old 10-17-2009, 05:03 PM   #9
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It's a heck of lot easier to share successes than it is screw-ups. That being said... here's a strange one for you.

This year's 2nd OD crop was a minor disaster. (For details, go here.) The last (3rd) group of starts (the grow had 3 staggered starts from clones), were smallish (by design) and had just begun showing flowers when my mishap nearly denuded them and put the brakes on their structural growth. In other words, I had a batch of sickly plants on my hands and I didn't know what do with them.

My first inclination was to cut them down and add them to the leaf barrel but some space had opened up in the tanning salon so I N'd them and put them into the 20/4 cycle that the other vegging plants were enjoying. 2-3 weeks later, the plant's younger/happier/luckier cousins had crowded them out so they went back OD to "re-flower" w/o having fully reverted to veg. (ie single and "tortellini" leaves; a stray, wispy, pistil dominant bud or two.)

It prolly was the mj that i'd ingested that was doing the talking, but I could swear i heard the words "you're a rotten SOB" emanating from the direction of these poor, confused plants on more than one late night visit to the garden.

Once OD (12 1/2 da) the stepdaughters reverted back to flowering at an accelerated rate and while they filled out- almost doubling their pre-semi-reveg size, (<-that's a mouthful), they had to make due w/ single leaf energy collectors and an underdeveloped skeleton. The yield was approx 1/8 of what their mothers had produced, the buds were small (like green rabbit turds) and/or loosely formed. The fragrance seems to favor the spicy-sweet side of the citrus-skunk equation a bit more than the mums did and while the potency prolly took a hit, my faculties aren't refined enough to discern a difference so the drop-off is likely 10%-15%- maybe less.

BTW I can only recommend this approach to folks who are firmly entrenched in the waste not-want not ethic, have high tolerance thresholds and/or have way too much time on their hands.
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