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Old 01-17-2009, 02:33 PM   #11
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I dont have the ability to just toss out good looking nugs like that after trimming my stash.... all those trimmings at the end of your post would end up right in the bong bowl lol..... I guess smoking brick weed for 10 years will do that to ya tho... any bud is better than no bud IMO..... if anything i would focus on the flushing and curing aspect of this to improve your smoke for the next grow....
Thanks corvus420. Prior to growing I was right there with you, plenty of times I removed the Spanish language newspapers from a brick and spent the next few hours cleaning all the seeds and crap out of it. Now I grow and the law allows me to have 6 mature plants at any one time. That is a lot of pot. 6 healthy plants in an outdoor grow will conservatively produce over 6 lbs. Have 3 or 4 grows a year and we are talking about serious weight. Do I care about waste, not really. Now it's all about the best possible quality, high and taste being the most important. This is just a way for me to get there. If you have the quantity this method will improve anyones stash, guaranteed.

I don't want to give you the idea that I grow trash so here is a picture of two ladies that I will be harvesting in about 30days. There are from seed, Barney's Farm NiteShade, and G13+haze. This is my indoor 7 sqft grow cabinet. Good genetics and healthy plants. I'm still going to be extreme trimming after curing because I am not satisfied with good enough when I can improve upon it. peace
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:24 PM   #12
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Caddylack, Let me get this straight, I harvest 80% of the trichs and tender leaves, what remains on the bud is 20% of the trichs and 100% of the stems and trash and you pick the buds. Is that just to prove a point??
No, it's not to prove a point. I'm just not really a fan of throwing away weed. There will come a day when you have none, and you will wish you had all that "trash" to smoke.

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Thanks corvus420. Prior to growing I was right there with you, plenty of times I removed the Spanish language newspapers from a brick and spent the next few hours cleaning all the seeds and crap out of it. Now I grow and the law allows me to have 6 mature plants at any one time. That is a lot of pot. 6 healthy plants in an outdoor grow will conservatively produce over 6 lbs. Have 3 or 4 grows a year and we are talking about serious weight. Do I care about waste, not really. Now it's all about the best possible quality, high and taste being the most important. This is just a way for me to get there. If you have the quantity this method will improve anyones stash, guaranteed.
I would say if you are producing the kind of yields you say you are, you shouldn't have this problem in the first place. Growing pot with a good taste and a good high should be achieved long before you start growing pounds and pounds of the stuff.
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Old 01-18-2009, 12:58 AM   #13
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No, it's not to prove a point. I'm just not really a fan of throwing away weed. There will come a day when you have none, and you will wish you had all that "trash" to smoke.


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I would say if you are producing the kind of yields you say you are, you shouldn't have this problem in the first place. Growing pot with a good taste and a good high should be achieved long before you start growing pounds and pounds of the stuff.
Thanks Caddylack, I agree 100% with what you say. Vaporizers produce vapor and until California passed the Medical Marijuana proposition I never even would have thought to go to this extreme trim. I am 61 years old and have most likely been smoking pot longer than you been walking around and the only other time I have seen these quantities personally was back in the late 60's.

Now anybody can get half a dozen bag-seeds together and start producing pounds and pounds. Planting outside no brains needed to keep a plant alive until flowering. One day they are going to be smoking their dope, coughing their lungs out and be heard to say "man this tastes like shit, is there anything I can do??" and then voilà"

What level do you normally trim to on a scale of 1 to 10? 1 being no trim at all, 10 being the max buzz. Just surmising I would think that one would either not trim at all or go all the way. Say you trim to a scale of 4, basically you have just reduced the potency of your pot because all the really good smokable stuff resides on the outside of the bud, the Crust if we were talking about mother earth. I do see quite a few well trimmed buds around, at the co-ops or pot shops they were trimmed. I fail to see the reason.

Now Caddylack, do you really expect me to believe that all of your grows meet your plants genetic potential? You are either really good or really lucky. Whichever, keep it up. Good luck to you, peace
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:45 AM   #14
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As far as trimming... I do it like pretty much everyone else. I trim off the leaves and the bud remains intact, still on the stem. In all honesty, I'm part of the minority that throws stems (small ones, anyway) into their grinder along with the buds and smokes it all together. At least by my standards, it doesn't harm quality too much and I don't even really notice it. With that said, I'm still a connoisseur. It's not like I don't know the difference, I just don't think it's such a critical issue... plus I am not a wasteful person.

As far as growing in general... I never said I was perfect, or even skilled at all. I'm a newbie compared to the likes of many people on this site. At the same time, I haven't gotten myself in over my head. My grows have gradually gotten larger, more advanced, and more successful as my comfort and knowledge levels have increased. However, I can honestly say I'm happy with the final product without doing anything extra to it.

This hobby is all about enjoying the final product. As I said, if doing this to your herb allows you to get more enjoyment out of it, more power to you. I would just personally prefer a bunch of "regular" nugs over a lesser amount of "extreme trimmed" nugs. To each his own, and by all means, grow on.
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Old 01-18-2009, 02:36 AM   #15
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Thanks CL, good discussion. I never really gave trimming much thought before, I'm going to continue and see if I can track some actual weights. Anyway I only started this wasteful trim about a week ago. By the way it takes quite a bit of time and patience to get your pot this clean. Kinda like pick'n fly-shit outa pepper as they say. Not for somebody who is in a hurry. Grow in peace.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:56 AM   #16
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Thanks corvus420. Prior to growing I was right there with you, plenty of times I removed the Spanish language newspapers from a brick and spent the next few hours cleaning all the seeds and crap out of it. Now I grow and the law allows me to have 6 mature plants at any one time. That is a lot of pot. 6 healthy plants in an outdoor grow will conservatively produce over 6 lbs. Have 3 or 4 grows a year and we are talking about serious weight. Do I care about waste, not really. Now it's all about the best possible quality, high and taste being the most important. This is just a way for me to get there. If you have the quantity this method will improve anyones stash, guaranteed.

I don't want to give you the idea that I grow trash so here is a picture of two ladies that I will be harvesting in about 30days. There are from seed, Barney's Farm NiteShade, and G13+haze. This is my indoor 7 sqft grow cabinet. Good genetics and healthy plants. I'm still going to be extreme trimming after curing because I am not satisfied with good enough when I can improve upon it. peace


I know a boat company owner in Lima, Peru. the man is stinking filthy rich. he also doesn't smoke anything but extreme trimmed bud. he was visiting his girlfriend here in holland when I met him, and we became friends. didn't realize then he was a millionaire, but that's besides the point. we went to coffeeshops, and he'd buy purple, which is the cheapest stuff on the menu. I told him, man, there's much better stuff, try ...

and he'd say, nah, I can't hack all these crazy hybreds, I smoke it, and I feel uncomfortable. too stoned.

he took the purple, and would just cut it down to the bare buds, just enough for a tiny joint, and I would take the rest of the bag. lol

unfortunately I was an ass and tryed to capitolize off his wealth by asking him to invest in an idea of mine. if I had thought he would have become more distant with me because of that, I would have never asked, I was young and dumb and thought of myself with that much money...I thought, man, with that much dough, I'd for sure invest 10K into a buddies idea to see where it went for him.

what I didn't take into consideration is the fact that he'd probably been asked similar by 80 million people...and it'd be hard after that ti decifer who's sincere and who's just in it for the money.

I still have a way of contacting him, but I'm letting it sit. it's been a couple years now, I'm sure if i called him up and said hey man, things are great, sayin hi, how's your tiger...simple stuff.

really cool guy, chill, and you'd never think he's so rich, until you walk into a random jewler and watch him walk out with a 8000 euro watch that he bought on impulse. kind of one of the reasons I thought he'd like to invest maybe...

but anyway, this story has gone completely off topic. lol, damn I'm hiiiiiigh

I don't disagree with your way, I just watch my grow's very carefully. I'll break apart buds like that to smoke a joint of pure fire, but I won't throw the rest away personally. that stuff is chronic as hell man

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Old 01-18-2009, 04:12 AM   #17
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When I last had smoke, I was to the point where I'd put a small pinch from a bud into a bowl, take a hit, then empty it out. I just couldn't stand toking already burnt weed. I knew I was wasting a fair amount but to me it was worth it. I think I'd try a vaporizer if I was to ever start smoking seriously again. As an ex-cigarette smoker, I've sorta become real picky about smoke (the stuff given off by burning I mean hehe), wanting as little contact with it as possible, though I really do enjoy the smell of freshly lit smoke (even cigarettes) and the taste of a skunky weed toke = *swoon*
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Yep. I flower in a Dark Room 150 and veg under floro. I've only been harvesting since October and right now have over 4 oz'es of bud stashed away for my and my wife's consumption. That's about 3 months worth of smoke. And I have 7 more plants ready to harvest next month.

I'm looking for things to do with all that pot. I tried canna butter and will do that again, and recently bought bubble bags and ran all my trim and males through them to get the hang of it. I think after the next harvest I'll turn all the old buds into hash.

Pot is really easy to grow after you get it figured out. Once you realize the importance of pH controlling your H2O you're halfway there.

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If your not satisfied with your end product why sacrifice that much of the harvest. when you could just pick another strain with beter taste and potency. I've smoked bud out there that taste like christmas morning and will knock anyones socks off. Maybe its your genetics or your method of growing that is not producing your desired outcome.

IMO- Focus should be set on what is good in life not what is best. Maybe your missing the point of sowing a seed and reaping YOUR OWN harvest.

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6 healthy plants in an outdoor grow will conservatively produce over 6 lbs. Have 3 or 4 grows a year and we are talking about serious weight.
You can't have 3 or 4 grows a year outdoors.

But seriuosly, waterboy has posted what he does - right or wrong shouldn't be the topic of this thread.
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