Can you ferment cannabis leaf like you do tobacco?

V8d8Child · 05-01-2009, 10:09 PM

I've looked into the processing of tobacco and found that the leaf is basically processed in two steps: drying and curing. This sounds like what you do for buds, but the second step in tobacco is specifically refered to as a ferment. I think the humidity is much higher than the treatment for buds.

Has anyone ever heard of treating cannabis leaf like tobacco leaf?

ILLEGAL-SEED · 05-01-2009, 10:33 PM

well we really dont harvest the leaf at all. other than for hash or cooking.

buds are thick and full of moisture, unlike thin leaves. high humidity may cause mold easily.

what does it do to the tobbaco leaf?

adamx · 05-02-2009, 12:59 AM

keep in mind tobacco is also treated with preservatives/additivies, and has a very different chemical composition that pot does.

pot cures allow cellular activity to end, without bacteria and fungus degrading the product.
tobacco cures are done to improve or modify the flavour/chemical composition of the product.

V8d8Child · 05-02-2009, 10:41 AM

Searching on line finds that fermentation seems to be most associated with cigars.

Grow your own Tobacco

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Fermenting also called sweating, This is the process by which ammonia is released from the leaf to make it sociable. It can be done by heaping the tobacco into large piles called pylons that raise the temperature and humidity or by use of a kiln with a heater and humidifier. Under the raised temperature and humidity enzymes in the leaf cause it to ferment. It is not necessary to spray a fermenting solution on the leaf as some suggest the enzymes will do it naturally. Sometimes this is also referred to as curing.
This system of maturing leaf came from the days when tobacco was shipped by sail. The ship would sit in port for a few weeks, very humid and bails stacked tight together. When the tobacco reached it's destination it was found to smell and taste sweeter. You could use the curing chamber for this job after the initial curing, cut back the heat and humidity and close off the flu but keep the small fan running.

Fermenting: There are two methods of fermenting, stacking and kiln fermenting.

The stacking method is used by large growers, stacks of tobacco weighing around 100 lbs are wrapped in burlap and allowed to "sweat" the internal temp is closely monitored and when it reaches 140 degrees the stack is broken down to release tar, ammonia, and nicotine, the stack is torn down and rebuilt several times until the temp will no longer reach 110 degrees, the stems are stripped and stacked in a cooler place (65 degrees to age for a time 6 weeks to 6 years).

Kiln fermenting is what the smaller grower must use if he or she wants to smoke any time soon, the kiln is a small-insulated container with an artificial heat source that helps to simulate the fermentation, the leaves are placed in the kiln with the lid shut heat and humidity are carefully controlled (temp 100 to 130 degrees and 65 to 70% humidity) the kiln is left on 24 hours a day, kiln fermenting lasts about 4 to 6 weeks, the relative humidity must be carefully maintained during this time, a short aging period will follow of 4 to 6 weeks or longer until the leaves can either be rolled into cigars or cut for cigarette pipe or chewing tobacco.

Remember aging will always improve a tobacco, and any tobacco leaves can be kiln cured if it has been properly stored (humidity no lower than 50% to 65%). Smoking uncured tobacco is unpleasant and dangerous as the nicotine and ammonia contained can be fatally high, not to mention it will taste like your smoking leaves from your front yard.

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Tobacco fermentation / curing chamber for cigars

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Growing and harvesting is a perquisite to fermentation covered in other guides, available here. This instructable picks up after you have air cured your green leafy bounty and is one possible way to simulate the needed conditions for fermentation at home. **Tobacco sowing season is NOW! March-June, get started TODAY!**

This project was created last year (2008 harvest) to provide address a common question in the tobacco growing hobby, discussing the critical points of curing tobacco. Also provided is an example of how one may be able to affordably recreate the conditions needed for tobacco fermentation. No oil heaters required!

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V8d8Child · 05-02-2009, 10:52 AM

I should add that I happen to like cannabis leaf. I like leisurely low potency reefer smoking.

n_zyme · 05-03-2009, 08:22 AM

i've been wanting to cure up some big fan leaves and use them as blunt wraps.

peace,
n_zyme

Sso · 05-21-2009, 12:54 PM

yeah this might be cool on leaves.

Nobodhi · 05-26-2009, 06:43 AM

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i've been wanting to cure up some big fan leaves and use them as blunt wraps.

Despite the fact that I smoke tobacco regularly, it has always bugged me when cannabis is mixed with it. A pure cannabis blunt sounds wonderful!

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