ShrapNull

sensimilla...
Is sensimilla more potent or yield more smokable herb than with seeds? lets list the advantages and disadvantages!

SmokinRav says there is no change, but I guess there is.

seeds replace resins pods, right? so less to smoke.
wouldn't it divert attention to the seeds, I imagine that once a female is pollenated, the main focus is to mature those seeds before it dies and everythign else is not even remotely as high of a priority. This is only what I THINK and is not actual facts that I know, however it could be true.

"kill males! dont let them pollenate your females" <-- i see that ALL the time. if all it did was add weight by adding seeds, that I think everyone would do it because that would mean more generations. I also gather that it means you shouldn't waste time growing a male because all it does it make a female have seeds and you get nothing from a male.
(Trust me, males are not worth the time/effort/risk, I know that from experance!)

Phread O'Hinton

ShrapNull, my take on this argument used to be that you got more THC from unfertilized females.

SmokinRav makes a strong argument, though- the plant makes what it will, and may convert some of the "energy" that would have made THC and makes seeds (that energy in the seeds has to come from somewhere). After you sort the seeds out, the total bud weight is less- but if you weight the seeds, you'd be about equal. Am I paraphrasing you correctly, Smokin?

Other plants that I've grown- particularily bulbs (tulips, onions)- clearly sacrifice the mother plant to help the seeds, so you remove the seed pods early to keep them from killing the mother.

Seems to me that there's no real concern here- apart from the @#&% job of picking the seeds outta your weed!

ShrapNull

I wish i had added a pole, oh well, too late now

rapunzel

I've been smokin' since 1969. Back in that day, we got really weak weed. Seemed, as time went by, it got better or maybe we were just willing to pay more money for it!
I've smoke weed with lots of seeds and weed with no seeds...
I think it depends mostly on the genetics. Environment can affect it to some degree, but if it is really good, it will be really good with seeds too. Just a pain to clean.
I've had some sensimilla that hardly did anything, then some sensimilla that put me into paralasis for a undistinguishable amount of time.
Although I believe sensimilla helps, I have to lean toward genetics.

Rapunzel

smokinrav

One of the things I have to do when I visit this site is focus on different things every day. If I dont I get bored and dont want to stay. I just cant keep having the same argument every day. Ill let you guys hash this out for awhile, hopefully some expert will come along and offer more than observational proof. You guys know my position.....

All I ask is you apply some common sense to your arguments

Later

Smokin

smelly

expert - i am not - but i am saying that - seeded and no seed bud are equaly as potent per gram of actual flower - that is if u take the seeds out the herb then it will be as good as the stuff with no seeds (assuming you dident harm the bud takeing out all the seeds ) - so the only real reason that you would have seeds is to progate them latter - other wise you will 1- have to sort through the seeds - 2- lose all that weight in seeds 3 - not be able to sell it for as much (no one is willing to pay for seeds - unless there buying seeds - but there are trying to buy the weed not the seeds ) - but in the end both of the flowers will get you just as high given the amount smoked is the same - so the only thing you are loseing when you put a male in there is all that weight in seeds - if i am wrong please correct me - peace ya'll

alivenkikn

I also am a smoker from way back,one of the old broads,(LOL)
It seems to me that sense is usually pretty good because of it producing so much resin,and that is where the THC is,is it not?So if u r producing more resin,how could it not have a better shot at being better than it's seeded out sister.Yes,genetics no doubt r the whole of it,i mean u aren't going to plant a seed and get a better high,but u r going to get more highs,no doubt about it.ANd I like better and more.For example,last year my girls got seeded out,this year they didn't, and i have a whole bunch of beautiful buds.Oh yes,same smoke.As a matter of a fact,there were 3 that casme from the seeds last year,stayed dormant all winter,then grew like hell!!! My experience,more and better..

far_too_stoned

I didn't know there was a debate. I know nothing about how plants actually work, but I thought something like the following theory was basically the accepted wisdom: the bud keeps growing, and the female keeps putting out resin until some pollen sticks to it. Once pollinated, the resin production goes down and the bud turns into a seed pod. If not pollinated, on the other hand, it keeps growing (increasing yield) and cranking out resin (increasing potency)???

Or am I talking about something completely different (hard to tell -- I have a harvest head on at the moment)

smokinrav

Resins have little to do with the amount of THC in a bud.
Here, have a look at THE expert opinion weighing in

http://www.hempcultivation.com/420/s...threadid=14712

Smokin