nigel

easier to get a 'pure' sample out of a small quantity of bud than a large amount of leaf?

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dont know, every hair is Covered in trichomes and there is much less of nonthc material.

but still you should just get more oil with buds, though thinking of it...

do you guys get the same high, just need more of leaves ? i dont know, take a hit of really good bud, boom, ahhhh yeah...

take a hit from sugarleaves..hmm, ok..lets have another, ...another...another..ok im cool but i wish i had some real buds its not quite as satisfactory a high, well some trim perhaps but mostly, no..

snowboarderCO42

yeah that's what I think Luke... if you are just harvesting trichs it should be the same, right? I mean are you telling me that the trichs on my sugar leaves are not the same as the ones on my buds? does that make sence to anyone? I am not trying to "stir the pot", but come on... I am not saying the yeild would be close to the same... just saying THC should be THC no matter if I got it from the bud I grew or the sugar leaves I cut off that bud... should be the same trichs... just less of them... please correct me if I am wrong....

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As I said, it's the same concept as using mid-grade or high grade. The mid grade delivers a lower potency oil. Trim is the equivalent of low-grade cannabis, so you get low grade oil. Not to mention, when people have made the oil from trim, it has been not as good quality as high grade buds, so the issue has already been decided in this regard. However, I do understand where everyone is coming from.

snowboarderCO42

I understand how different grades of bud will have different grades of oil... but the trichs from trim and bud ARE the same until someone proofs otherwise.... IF someone has some science please speak up.... tired of hearig "it just is".... that is BS

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Snowboarder, Im trying to find an answer for you based on SCIENTIFIC FACTS, the only problem is that no-one has has access to the type of equiptment needed to actually test the oil for potency. I can tell you this much, this is how RS decides if the starting material is good enough to 'cure an internal cancer'... He rolls the starting material in a joint and lights it. It he can start to feel' high' after just a few hits, he knows this is what he needs to cure cancer. He says if you can smoke the whole joint before getting 'high', that the starting material is mid-grade and not the BEST. I guess the best test for this would be for someone to make some oil from bud and trim, trying to heal something visual (Like Acne or rash) Apply some trim oil to one section, and the bud oil to the other section and compare notes? Maybe thhis will be something that I try out if no one else will? I do understand how pure THC is Pure THC, So....? I also wondered why the oil trim doesnt seem to work as fast or as efficient as the bud oil? Lets see for ourself, shall we?
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Silentsmoke

I'm pretty sure here in town I can get access to that if I need to JJG. Dr. Bob would definitely be able to get that hooked up.


Oil is a lot more clear when using bud vs trim. Somethin to do with less stuff coming along with the solvent, possibly... dunno.

I do know it comes out cleaner lookin using just buds. Pure golden color.. mmm

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I have made ISO Oil out of Mexican brick weed and they quality is good, the quantity is always lower than when using a good grade of trim and potkorn buds, but the desired effects seam to be the same.
I believe it has to do with the amount of THC and other things in the original plant. I do know the better material you start with the more quantity end results, but I'm not to sure as to the Quality, other than if I smoke a joint of brickweed I will need a 2nd one to get where I want to be, or 1/2 a joint of good blueberry will get the same effects...

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Silent, That would be awsome. Any results that we could back up with proof would be great, and a learning exp for all. We will never know what works, and what dont untill we try, and compare notes? It would be very interesting to see what the results were for trim oil potency vs. bud oil potency.Who knows Silent after this, we might have to start calling you the Myth Buster You made a good point about more plant material getting extracted into the oil made from trim vs. the golden oil we get from just the buds. Maybe this is why the bud oil is more potent. Getting to much un-necessary plant material in your mix is a concern thats why they dont suggest you do more that 2 washings. Because on the 3rd wash it extracts to much needless plant material making it harder to get a pure oil???It would make sense that if you have an oil with no plant material left over VS. an oil with unnessary plant material extracted with the oil, the one without would be stronger?

EZ, I spoke with RS about possibly making a treatment with brickweed. He did say 'He's done it before, and it will heal..But instead of using 1 Lb. for a treatment, you will probally need double or tripple the amount of starting material to get a full treatment. This treatment did work, but it took more starting material AND more oil than what he has seen medical grade cure. He would not recomend this but would encourage you to do so in a life or death situation and this is your only option." BUT HE SAYS HE HAS SEEN IT WORK. With Myth Buster on the scene, we might find out a more logical answer? I think it's great you have exp in making the oil already. RS said he's never seen someone cure a cancer from smoking/vaporizing alone, However he does recomend you do a few vapes during the day with the oil treatment to work on any lung conditions. Now that you have access to this, you need to get AS MUCH IN YOU AS POSSIBLE, AS FAST AS POSSIBLE to work on your cancer! This is a CRUCIAL part to recovery! (Chat about that in news thread)

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chronik_catfish

I was thinking about different ways and such to make the oil. I have made small amounts in the past using both butane and hexane as well as your usual way of making iso oil. butane and hexane are kind of volatile compared to the iso and other solvents and was pandering the ideas of a safer alternative.

I know RS uses namtha or Petroleum Ether... and was wandering if 95% or better Ethanol could be used in place of petroleum based solvent. I have an alembic copper still i use to make ethanol(aka moonshine). RS mentioned in his videos that distilling is the proper way to actually making the oil because you can re-use the solvent after it is distilled off and the oil remains in the still.

I have some trim and popcorn buds left over from my recent harvest and was thinking of soaking it in the already made 95% ethanol for a few days or so then distilling it again.

If i'm correct this method should create the oil in the same way. The boiling point of ethanol is around 173 degrees and should be low enough heat not to damage the thc. I'm making the ethanol from corn yeast and sugar just to throw that in.

By distilling it I should eliminate the harmfull vapors that are being emitted into the air as the solvent evaporates thus making it safer???

Any input on this idea would be greatly appreciated before i go and throw all my trim in the pot and let it soak????

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