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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | does anyone know if ethyl methyl ketone can be used? i have here what is know as hospital spiritus, 70% alcohol and the rest water and emk. its by far the highest alcohol you can get here. emk is also known as butanone, it is a solvent. *its put in there as an irritant, so drunks dont drink this *yes funny country we have here* its in probably small volume, so this is mostly alcohol and water.. Butanone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia im not much of a chemical knowledge guy, so anyone, is it ok to use this? its not intended for any serious oilmaking just an experiment with junk. *i dont know anyone alive with cancer anyway nor have more than a few grams..* thanks. Last edited by Sso; 05-30-2009 at 08:22 AM.. | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | it's MEK Methyl Ethyl Ketone I used to use this stuff as a cleaning agent for a latex material that covered an unmanned dirigible, a smaller blimp type vehicle with a radar unit within that can be towed behind large truck on land or ships in water used for surveillance have a great day don | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Silent, I am so sorry to hear this news. I will keep you both in my thoughts and prayers. I would suggest to still get her on the oil though. If for nothing else but to detoxify her body, and relieve any pain she is in. If she is on pain meds, these will keep damaging her body. If this oil would just get her to feel better, have more energy, fight off any infections bacteria in her body, it would be worth trying still. I would say to still attempt to give her a full treatment ASAP. What does Liz think? Is she up to tring it still just to keep her feeling good and to see what happens? Either way, Keep us informed and wish her luck in her recovery. EVERYONE, Heres an interesting clip from a radio interview with RS. YouTube - Hemp Oil (Marijuana Oil) Cures Cancer? - Part 7/14 A few minutes in he explains his method of extraction, and other methods he's used with success. He discusses distilling (Chronic) and he also discusses butane. 6 Minutes in he explains BHO and why he doesn't recomend it. (mainly if making oil on large scale) Please listen and share your oppinion of this. (Pro's-Con's of BHO) Thanks, JJG | ||
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Update: Oil from Duff… Finally, a real use for my duff… I knew I saved it all these years for a reason! Following is the process I used for my first attempt at making Duff Oil with EverClear. I gathered the following supplies I had laying around (Pasta sauce jar, Coffee filters and funnel) and of course the EverClear. ![]() Added my duff to the jar and filled with EverClear to just cover the duff… ![]() Cap the jar and store in a cool dark place for 7 days, shake the jar once a day to agitate mixture. After seven days, filter the mixture through coffee filter or cheese cloth wear rubber gloves because it is STICKY and GREEN and you can make a big mess if not careful… ![]() WARNING! This next step must be done outside in a well ventilated or open area due to flammable fumes from the EverClear. Take PROPER PRECAUTIONS and be SAFE! I used a Crock Pot: Added filtered solution and set on high (this one has high or low). DO NOT leave unattended! The solution never actually boiled during the cook off and it took about 2 hours to get it down to a semi syrup state. I frequently agitated the mixture during the cook off. ![]() Poured the syrup into an old coffee cup and used a small amount of the EverClear to reclaim the ‘tide marks’ of essentials from the crock pot and added that to the syrup cup. I put the cup on a seed warming mat for 24 hrs and the let sit in the cupboard for another 24 and it’s done… ![]() I’ve ordered some Plastic syringes with caps to store the oil (will get on Monday). It looks like I yielded 2-4 ml of oil from the ‘jar’, I’ll know for sure when I get the syringes… This “Duff Oil” is very potent! It knocked me on my ass with just a dab! So, I am experimenting with how to use my new found ‘Doil’… So far I have eaten it (very GROSS tasting): Great body high Reminds me of the Narcotic ‘fuzz’ from my Pain pill days… I have smoked it, soaked into a pipe hit of bud and off to the moon… I have Vaped it, put a big drop on a vape load and off to Mars I go... And I am now trying some skin topical trials for minor stuff like warts, athlete’s foot, cuts etc… All in all I am very pleased with the outcome. Now I realize that this is "Doil" (Oil from Duff) and has such it may not be ‘pure oil’ but it still packs a punch and is a great way to utilize your vaped material to the maxim… I have another 2 jars soaking and will continue till I use up my Duff… Wuff! Last edited by wolverine3591; 05-30-2009 at 03:08 PM.. | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | This is awsome Wolve! Make sure you let us know how much you end up with and how your treatments go! (Try to cover skin conditions with band-aid) JJG | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | not my thread; it is our thread. lol All magic oil threads are for everyone, as is 'magic oil'. I am under way. Have got six baggies and a tin of trim, shade leafs, bits and pieces off both indoor and outdoor grows. I am working on the principle of cleaning the raw material i have, then process it with solvents. So first step was to put in bucket of water, totally hydrating the material. Aim is to remove water soluble impurities, through filtering. Will then freeze filterings in preparation for an ice bubble bath ala 'gumby' u-tube, to extract trichs. Centrifuge the sludge to separate trichs, stem dust and leaf dust into layers. remove trichs and make some magic oil. Slightly different approach, but i think cutting bulk and removing water soluble contaminants, i will get a better end product. lol nigel
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | TURN YOU MAGIC HEALING OIL INTO AN OINTMENT. This can be helpful to those who wish to use this oil topically, spreading over a large section of the body. You Need... 1. RS Hemp Oil - Hash Oil - BHO; 2. Bees Wax 3. Double Steamer 4. Amber glass ointment bottle with lid Runnings: Water in the bottom pot and oil and wax in the top pot, Bout 20% wax < oil 80%. By volume Heat water (bottom pot) till wax melts, (top pot) stir in well. Cool a sample to check consistency. Add more wax to make it firmer or oil to make softer. When it feels good, pour into ointment bottle and cool. That’s it Cannabis Ointment. Therapeutic Use: Can be used externally or internally. Yes it has Aphrodisiac properties too, Remember this is one of the Safest known herbs to people kind. Cannabis ointment helps with anything from tropos to pimples, insect bites to burns, chronic nerve, muscle and bone pain, migraine headache, severe back and neck pain, nerve & allergic rashes and more!!! If You Have Rick Simpson Hemp Oil or Hash Oil, you can use that to make the ointment . This method of adding it to the Bees Wax would be helpful if applying the Hemp Oil over a large area of the body. Hope this is helpful. I will be making some ointment in addition to the oil. I will use the ointment over a large section on my leg. JG | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ok Guy. Heres another extraction method for the oil. This came to me from a friend on another site. She lost a friend in a house explosion trying to extract oil, using heat to evaporate solvent. She is VERY against using heat to evaporate, and she shared this method with me. I though I should share this with everyone here, so we can experiment with different methods of extraction. Her method seems way easy, and safe? Here Goes... Quick Wash ISO (QWISO) is the best method in my opinion. Start by placing 99% ISO in the freezer overnight. Also freeze your dry plant material. Built a filter by cutting the bottom off a 2 liter soda bottle and drill some holes in it. Place a coffee filter inside the top portion of the bottle. Use the bottom with the holes in it as a filter retainer. Now place plant material and ISO in a plastic container and shake it like mad for 2 min, no longer or it will get green and be full of nasty tars and oils. Rapidly filter the plant material with a collender or wire mesh strainer and then dump the liquid through the coffee filter. Allow ISO to evaporate in a well vented room using no direct heat. A fan is fine but don't use heat. Once it's all evaporated scrape the goodness up and use sparingly. By freezing the ISO you make it less agressive of a solvent so it dosn't quickly dissolve plant oils and chlorophyl but it will dissolve the trichomes releasing the cannabinoids into the ISO. It's probably the safest method I have come across but you still need to be carefull. I was a firefighter/paramedic for years so I have a pretty good grip on safety precautions. Just don't use heat, keep all ignition sources away and vent well to prevent accidents. Just remember the faster you evaporate the higher the concentration of ISO fumes in the air so go slow and vent well. She says it takes aprox. 24-36 hours to evaporate the iso out of a 13*9 size glass baking pan. A fan gently blowing on it helps to speed this up. So what do you all think about this method? JG | ||
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![]() ![]() | High, We have good results for topical use just blending the hempflower concentrate into a hemp-oil salve from OHIO Hempery. It has beeswax and herbs in a hemp oil base. The solid concentrate will blend into this with no heating. Works great for rheauma, trauma and neuropathic pain. More hemp oil makes it more of a massage oil viscosity. ;-D | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | after a week of soaking in a bucket of water, giving a poke a couple of times a day, i did this. pic 1 - mj material removed from bucket. pic 2 -liquid left sifted through a doubled over T shirt. into another bucket. pic 3 - collecting residue pic 4 - mj material put back in shirt and wringed out. [completing ruination of t shirt from chlorophyll stains lol] Check out the chlorophyll, dirt etc washed out. pic 5 -collected residue, put aside for later in process pic 6 - to freezer next step is a second wash and filter for trichs. I think what washed out will make for a cleaner end product. will keep you posted. best wishes nigel
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