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Old 10-30-2009, 10:43 AM   #11
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Does the kiff that was de-carboxilated going to get you more ripped than the kiff that wasnt?
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Good morning,

After harvests in the past i've always screened my flowers through my Resin Heaven prior to going into cure - The kief piles on the glass below would be gathered together into a pile and moved off the glass into the palm of my hand where i'd work it into a little ball.
Kneading and rolling out just using my thumb and my own body heat.
The end result much better than the previous powder form with that wonderful ol' time hash taste I remember from back in the day.
Just like the fine Japanese chef making sushi in his bare hands using the warmth of his body to essentially cook the food before your very eyes.
Today, I don't screen my bud anymore after harvest, I cure it first then screen as I use it going from cure jar to Resin Heaven as needed.

Good luck and have a wonderful day
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:17 PM   #13
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i think the main reason for pressing, is long term storage and portability. you cant store unpressed kief that long, because it is a powder. it will store much longer and not mold if it is pressed. the side bonus is that once its pressed, the thc heads burst, and form together, to create the pressed hash. pressed hash will turn darker, at room temp, over time. this would be curing. ive noticed that the darker it turns, the more potent it becomes. there is a point where it doesnt turn any darker. this just depends on the grade of hash. this all depends on the starting material. it does not do this all the time, or with all hash, you have to start with something good to begin with.
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I saw the same video you saw and tried it. I melted the cellophane to the hash...what a mess. Then I got the wetting of the outside paper right and it worked great. Way better smoke than just keif hits. I am always leary of the heat, but believe that it sort of activates the hash, making it superior to unheated pressed hash
This is also the impression I got. The heating at a precise temp of 175deg F for 10 mins isnt so much to aid with the pressing, which I can do with body heat. I know a zillion ways to press hash. Im mildly interested about any superior qualitys this process may or may not deliver. I get plenty baked know matter how I smoke my kiff just wondering about this activation process and have members experimented with oven temps and times for this intended purpose.

I only tried this method once many years ago and somewhat forget the outcome. Im sure the difference in potency is inconsequential but doesnt stop me from wondering about this.
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I, like TC, use the Makin's hash-press but I always heat it in the toaster oven (about 150 deg for five minutes) before I turn the screw. I don't know if it adds to the potency but I like what pressing does to the flavor and I like the way heating aids in the pressing. I just use one dime, no wax paper, and turn until I can't turn anymore right out of the oven. Then I let it cool for five minutes, give it another turn, back it off and unscrew it. The residue on the press gets removed via a bourbon-whiskey soak. (A few batches of hash and that whiskey is gonna send you into orbit, btw.)

I recently read Howard Marks' autobiography, Mr. Nice. There's a passage where he describes a hash-processing operation in Pakistan. They used heat and Marks claimed that it activated some of the cannabinoids to a higher level of potency. I don't know if he's right. All I know for sure--from personal experience--is that pressed kif tastes different from loose kif and that heat makes it easier to press.
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I use the alcohol extraction method to make oil. Would that benefit from heating after the extraction as well do you think?
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I, like TC, use the Makin's hash-press but I always heat it in the toaster oven (about 150 deg for five minutes) before I turn the screw. I don't know if it adds to the potency but I like what pressing does to the flavor and I like the way heating aids in the pressing. I just use one dime, no wax paper, and turn until I can't turn anymore right out of the oven. Then I let it cool for five minutes, give it another turn, back it off and unscrew it. The residue on the press gets removed via a bourbon-whiskey soak. (A few batches of hash and that whiskey is gonna send you into orbit, btw.)

I recently read Howard Marks' autobiography, Mr. Nice. There's a passage where he describes a hash-processing operation in Pakistan. They used heat and Marks claimed that it activated some of the cannabinoids to a higher level of potency. I don't know if he's right. All I know for sure--from personal experience--is that pressed kif tastes different from loose kif and that heat makes it easier to press.


yeah, sure as shit 150f wil be fine .... cannabinoids dont start vaping off till in almost 375f aint it?

my pocket sure aint that hot. it's hot but not that hot. if it was i wouldnt be single ya know



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If you had a choice of storeing some nice buds properly for several years possibly 5 years in a freezer or fridge to preserve it as much as possible from heat degradation and loss of potency or converting it to a hash format that could be stored much more efficiently than a pound or two of your choice bud in glass jars how long would you wait to do this before your primo buds start to degrade?

This last outdoor crop produced some very potent head stash that is very hard to smoke more than 3-4 joints a day of. When I stop and consider that im not smoking that much of this stuff because it seems better than anything ive produced indoors dureing the last 8-10 years. Maybe all those UVB rays going on outdoors that us indoor growers cant truely replicate with our pissy little reptisum desert bulbs. Whatever the reasons my latest harvest is the bomb and I cant forsee rippin through the big fat jars that are pileing up here and there and my constant concerns of whether I should acquire a small fridge to keep this stuff around for a long time to come.

Im sure some of this stuff will be depleted by myself and a few close assosciates but im still going to be left with enough weed to smoke thru 2015. Cooking and hash making are swell and all but I got those bases covered already with trim needing to be converted to hash as I type this. Finding the motivation to make buble hash when you have a big pile of it from your last session is hard to come by. It becomes a housekeeping issue. The same lack of motivation to do extractions be it cooking or hashmaking .

Does alot of pot often make people this apothetic?
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