swordfish

Seen a video and tried it once but forgot the outcome or was otherwise satisfied at the time. Now im thinking this is an important step in de-carboxilation that further converts the thc and cbn's into a more phsycoactive smokeable compound. Anotherwords it's superior to smoking your kief unpressed.

Normally I just dump a big pile of kief into the center of the palm of my hand and apply lots of pressure with my thumb for a few minutes. After pressing it tightly with my thumb and keeping the pressure applied it will be like a chunk of hash when im completed.

I also have filled a cello wrapper like on a pack of smokes 25% full and taped closed. Then I would wrap this in several layers of paper and tape again. Soak this in water briefly and bake at 175 deg F for 10 minutes. I would then roll the package with a roller and the results after cutting everything open and unwrapping all the material would be a nice chunk of hash as well.

Is one of these methods better than the other? Im thinking that palming it or just useing it as a bowl topping is not as potent as if I go the extra step and apply a gentle heat for a short time. Any chemists know how the canabinoid profile differs with this heat application? You dont need to be a chemist but you get my question I hope.

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hmm I could use more knowledge on this...so I will keep an eye on this tread

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Bonesnoff

I dunno what you'd call that, but it isn't any form of hash that I have ever heard of. Interesting ideas though.

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swordfish

Hash and kiff are one of the same. Im inquireing about applying heat in an oven for a brief period of time vs just pressing it or leaving it alone. I think heating may increase the potency. This is the clairification I seek. Resin heads are hash in an uncompressed form. Kiff is the resin heads in a dry form.

Just as in cooking or preparing butter there is a heating process to release the thc into a fat soluble solution. Many extractions call for applying gentle heat to further the de-carboxilation that makes the thc and cbn's more physcoactive than if not baked. Im sure youve made firecrackers before.

Does the kiff that was de-carboxilated going to get you more ripped than the kiff that wasnt?

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What you wanna do mostly is compress it 'twixt 2 sheets of cellophane. You want the compression to burst the resin heads and make them more available.

You heat it in smoking it anyway- I don't think heating in an oven then heating to smoke will make it better.

Unless, of course, you want the most powerful Canna-Cookie known to man. Then bake for a little while, add 1 chocolate chip, and eat.

If you wanna eat it, bake it. if you want to smoke it, just enough heat to meld it all together will work fine. (body heat or a nice 90* spot does it)

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what i used for a press is Makin's Professional clay extruder all you need is it. a penny and a dime and a piece of wax paper.

cut a circle of wax paper the size of the dime and the size of the penny, easy way is put the coin down and take an xacto or razor blade and go around it carefully

unscrew the end of the Makin's thing and back the screw down just a little bit. put in the dime followed by the dime size wax paper piece. you did cut that wax paper close now didint ya? you will see right there if you did or not.

now start backing down the screw of the press as your putting in kief , plowely back it down and keep pressure a little on that dime. i messed up one time thinking i could just back it all the way down and the dime dislodged and got just wedged enough to piss me off and be a PITA to get back out. just a tinny bit of pressure

when you get what ya got in there, a tablespoon at a time max i'd guess. take the penny and it's wax paper, wax paper towards the kief(duh) .

twist with hand only pressure till tight, you'll see the screw is still a way back out.
now i did once do it in the toaster oven once 150°f for about 10min
but i found it better to just drop the thing in your pocket, it's all sealed
every 15min or so give it another 1/-1/2 turn' whatever you can and drop in back in the pocket ... sure these heating cycles are just to 98°
you will notice each time you can turn it a little tighter

after 5-6-10 times of doing this cycle you will see the penny is domed out (i know, it's a felony to damage US currency). but your slowly slowly squashing that kief with the clay extruder distorted the penny .........
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mayan

I dunno...I've always heard that light and heat are "enemies" of THC. So I've always felt that the THC should be maintained as pristine as possible until one engages in one's favorite delivery system, eating smoking vaping, etc.

OTOH, I don't think that very minor heat for pressing is going to cause that big of a problem (gut sense, not science) not do I know whether the heating process can actually increase potency...i just thought it changed the THC to CBN or CBDN or whatever. I had thought that the heat used in pressing, however, was more for the pressing and the "finish" of the puck than to increase potency. I'll be interested to continue what folks have to say.

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Hey Swordfish,

I saw the same video you saw and tried it. I melted the cellophane to the hash...what a mess. Then I got the wetting of the outside paper right and it worked great. Way better smoke than just keif hits. I am always leary of the heat, but believe that it sort of activates the hash, making it superior to unheated pressed hash

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personaly i think kief is easier to smoke when its still in powdered form But thats just me

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P3nelope

if i remember correctly-- heat can change CBD into THC and decarboxylate THC-delta 8 into the more psychoactive delta-9, as well as 'degrade' THC into CBN

... many of the alleged best Moroccan, Afghani and Brazilian crops are 'sweat cured' in piles after harvest in many of these areas hash pressing also involves body heat and/or some low heat baking


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