Crabs

Sorry if this question has been asked too many times. But I tyred of serching for the answer could some one help please me.
I was thinking of starting a DWC grow and have been hunting hydro ferts and came up empty handed. I dont want to order over the net.Is there any way to grow using soil ferts ?
Has any one done it, if so how.
Thank you.

sixpiece

no, there isn't... you can find a chemical place or easier/better yet order ferts or the chemicals. nobody gets busted there is nothing wrong with growing as long as it ain't pot. no suspicion nothing. the world is too big for them to care about you... a lot can also package discreetly.

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butterbeen

whats up crabs , man when i started hydro about 2mounths ago,i had the same ?s. back then kingfurn was around giving advice. what he said was, use peters 20/20/20 with micronutrients to start with thats at 1/2 the dose. u work your way up the later from there. im useing peters and ironite 7/6/6 in different ratio
since i dont get alot of feed back on useing these ferts im sort of in the dark on the matter,so get your dwc working and just try some different things. it can be done here is a pic of my first hydro grow

Crabs

butterbean thats good news.
A friend sent me some organic ferts from Holland. They are for soil but they seem very clean I have heard organics are risky for hydro but after hearing what you have said I want to try it. I'v got clones comming out of my ears. And don't mind loosing a few.
Your plants are doing great.
Cheers

butterbeen

crabes i know that there are some ferts thah u cant use do to how the roots take in the nutes. u know that in soil there are microbes that break down the ferts so that it can be used by the plant so just keep that i mind when u go shopping look for micronutes on the bages. im no expert im just experimenting and its working so for. the ironite does't say anything about microbes but i guess mixed with the peters its working ok.
man if u are really smart u can go to delts rawsalt deal now that really breaks it down for u i think its on the sencond page of plant nuts and stuff. but anyway just some idears like i caid befor there aren't many post on useing peters are any thing else besides hydro ferts so info is limetd, just remember to use aquater of the doss an watch your plants closly,then move your dosses up when plants are bigger
have a good grow man trust me it will be fun

Crabs

butterbean I do have some type of bacteria powder that is suposed to break down the ferts. I will start the grow with petter 20/20/20 until I get a feel for it. These organic nutes are for flowering I will use them for that stage if they dont like it or cant use it I will change to chems.
I just needed to know it was possible
I started reading Deltas post at the time I was so stoned and I was very confused. I try again with a clear head.
Thanks again butterbean I'm remotivated.

hydropupil

. . . i was wondering aobut the DWC myself. i need to know if the resevoir lid needs to be airtight, or is it as long as the roots are in the water and getting oxygen, everything is a go?

sorry to invade your thread, but i am just as eager as you , anyway gotta go, moms in town for only a short while!!!

please keep this thread alive considering i have lots more questions, you guys seem so cool!!!

peace

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butterbeen

man i dont know about everyone else but the way mine is set up air is going to get out anyway. i think i would try and make the air go though the cups or what ever u have your plants in seems like the more air around the roots the better,thats just my thinking other people do it defferent.
ill try and get a pic of mine if it all right with crabs to post on his trend
its not a perty thing becouse iv been doing alot of tieing to make the plants spread out in my box so its made my cups lean this way and that u know from to much weight on 1 side but its growing fine so im not worried about to much.
as soon as crabs lets me know that i can post ill get a pic up i'll take one of the ferts and the top of the dwc maybe it will help

butterbeen

ok here it goes i got a cupple ove pic, the first is a vew of the top and the cups.
cups are 16oz party cups can get them anywhere, make holes with a liter or drill or whatever you can use just dont make the hole so big lots of perlit falls out. some is going to fall out but i dont think it will hert anything. i put a rode though the top to stablelize them and keep them from falling in.the next one i make will have pots in it so i wounl need the rode and it will keep more light out .
perlit for medium
2 30 gallon with dual outlets the single doesnt put out nearly as much as the dual and the dual is only like 4.00 more than the single, i got them hooked to 2way air valves.1line to the valves and one to one ead of the air stones. u can hook them alltogetter are just one line to each stone i think they work about the same but its all up to u. the stones are the blue one at wallmart i got the ones that would fit sideways my dwc so i put six in mine, they say the more bubbles the better. u have to find away to make them stay on the bottom they cant flot that would be no good.
now very inportant no light can get to the roots, so paint the top tap it or whatever u have to do to get lighttight.
ok man here is some pics

butterbeen

ok here are the ferts, u cant read the peters buts its 20/20/20 u can get what evey u wount in peters they have all kindes of formula