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how many plant do you need to get 1lb per 1000 watt of dry weight

Alaric

Me again,

1 pound dbw is pretty easy from a 1KW with a good strain.

Can be done with one plant vegged long enough before flowering---key is to keep the growth trained for a flat canopy----about a 4x4 area for a single source 1K.

Better option is around 16 plants switched at around a foot tall (1 plant per sq. ft.--------that's where the larger yields (>1 pound) are most likely.

Three 1 foot plants will yield more than one 3 foot plant----and in less time. Never grown extreme density SOG-----think the point of diminishing returns is somewhere around 2 plants per SF. Just be careful about plant numbers.

Some problems to overcome with large plants in aero is room for the root mass (huge) and the risk of the plant dying before finishing and loosing all that time and resources------makes you want to cry.

Alaric

OzGrowa

I would have to disagree, one mans unreachable is anothers accomplished.

I have seen yields of 3.2 pounds per 1000watt lamp, growing huge trees in dripper buckets in 25 gallon drums, they are grown and scroged for 8 weeks then flowered, c02 was used. They are common here in Oztralia, especially in Adelaide due to the permissive laws there. The strain was BigBudX NL#5. This is not a rare or isolated occurence either.


I think in my opinion its around 4 plants per square foot and my grows have almost proven this completley in my mind, i have tried 2, 3 4 and 6 and 4 consistently gave me the highest yield per table. The plant count point you make is very valid though and is a major concern for some people. I use the SOG principle so I go for maximum crops per year...

Good to see you over here also Alaric ... and for anyone wondring about alaric's credentials...dont! he has produced some wonderful, massive grows over the past few years and is a wealth of information and knowledge....also from what I hear he has 8K burnin

peace man,
OzGrowa

Alaric

Yo Ozmates,

Thanks for the lies. Never been to your country--- but know I would enjoy.

Strange we creatures of habit, even in cyberspace---to hang where comfortable----easy naviagation and fimiliar company.

Love of marijuana is the common spirit we share. Budha sat under it and Jesus died upon it and you and I enjoy the effects also. How foolish for our sources of information t be in competion---unity of our efforts is the quickest path to legalization------unity is power and power is influence. Just look at the NRA and Religion.

hey Ozgrowa,

>>one mans unreachable is anothers accomplishment<<

Bravo! Just what I'm looking for ---someone to help me increase yields relative to risk, time and expense.

>>I have seen yields of 3.2 pounds per 1000watt lamp, growing huge trees in dripper buckets in 25 gallon drums, they are grown and scroged for 8 weeks then flowered, c02 was used. <<

That's very difficult for me to imagine because I've seen the bud density-----thus the space requirement for only 24Zs per KW. About 6 square inches per monster Donkey Di*k (as SCW would call them) is required. Without a doubt, light is our weakest link indoors.

The closest to a 1K is around 18" before bleaching starts at around 9000fc----and hell only a coulple of feet more and "shade time". But this assumes only a flat cubic plane to harvest from---the next horizon...

Takes a fool to know one,

Alaric

OzGrowa

Likewise man, you are more than welcome here...We dont have a Jungle here tho , we are here to learn, share,chill and be.

Now, down to business

Ok here in Oz we have Heat Shields that fit to a brand of reflector called the Adjusta Shade, these allow a 1000Watt lamp to go to around 12 to 14 inches, without the chlorophyll oxidization occuring. Ill post some pictures and a URL of them real soon, they have helpd us here in Oz to get our lamps real real close without burn and to bump our yields right up.
These are used in the grows described, they are a horizontal double parabolic reflector...you may have seen them in some of my pictures.

Ok well I am a SOG grower so I wont claim to have done this method personally, friends in another state do this method, i will attempt to get some pictures for you, they were in a local newspaper here so it wont be too hard. I would be glad to get these friends of mine, via myself to comment or answer any questions, they wont appear online for security reasons but Im sure they would be happy to help you in any way possible.


Regds,
OzGrowa

Alaric

Hey again Ozgrowa,

>>Ok here in Oz we have Heat Shields that fit to a brand of reflector called the Adjusta Shade, these allow a 1000Watt lamp to go to around 12 to 14 inches, without the chlorophyll oxidization occuring.<<

I run the Diamond II with tempered glass, insert, and Hortilux 1K hps---make mods for air cooling. My strains start bleaching around 9000fc (about 18” below glass), temps at plants mid 80s.

>>i will attempt to get some pictures for you, they were in a local newspaper here so it wont be too hard<<

That would be great. For reference, here’s a pic of bud size about 2 weeks out---around 24Zs per KW------The canopy isn’t completely filled but imagineing TWICE that density is very difficult--------sure would like to see it though.

Thanks for the discussion,

Alaric

Aerobuds

Hey Alaric,

It's a little hard to tell from your picture, but is that the Webbytube system your using. If it is, how does it work. I was thinking about building one.

Aerobuds

Alaric

Hey Aerobuds,

Nope, not the webby tubes----don't believe sprayers/misters are necessary (no offense to webby---great grower and contributor). Also, each tube can be adjusted vertically and horizontally---while in service. Continious trough instead of individual holes. Best of all-----no medium. Res outside room, nute flush and reload by turning valves. Auto topping-----can be ignored for 5 days. Construction details in the posts in image gallery at CW in the webbytube threads.

As for results-----you be the judge.

Alaric

Aerobuds

Thanks Alaric,

Just wondering why you don't think misters are necessary. Im using them now with absolute explosive growth. But I to believe the webby tubes are over engineered and something much simpler can be built with the same results.

Aerobuds