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Old 08-17-2008, 06:29 AM   #41
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hoosierhash is starting to vegetate.

I designed a system w/4" PVC pipe that would allow me to leave for a few days with little worry.
This is a shallow water culture using the Autopot Smart Valve for control.
I have a res that gravity feeds the Smart Valve, and all I need to do is keep the nute res filled.
The res has a bubbler stone, and the tube itself has a 48" bubbler line.
The Smart Valve allows nutes in at a depth of 1" and stops. It will not refill the tube until the current charge is used up.
This was built to fit my cab flower chamber, but it can be made to any size at all with the use of just one Smart Valve. The sytem doesn't care if there are 5 or 50 plants, it only needs a sufficient sized res.

http://www.gardenscure.com/420/attachment.php?attachmentid=245301&stc=1&d=1218975559
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Old 08-17-2008, 01:16 PM   #42
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hoosierhash - what size are you letting your plants get in that set up?
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:58 PM   #43
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hoosierhash is starting to vegetate.

I haven't ran this unit yet. I will be putting it into action in about a week.
I will run plants as I do now, by veging for ~30 days w/LST and FIM.
I currently am using 2gal containers of coco/FFOF
PBP bloom 5-45ml/gal
blackstrap molasses 1tsp/gal
H2o2 @ 30ml/gal
straight tap every other feed

As soon as these finish, the Groove Toob will be loaded up.
http://www.gardenscure.com/420/attachment.php?attachmentid=245357&stc=1&d=1219006346

My cab is set-up with a vertical cool tube that will run in the middle of the unit.
http://www.gardenscure.com/420/attachment.php?attachmentid=245358&stc=1&d=1219006571
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Old 08-17-2008, 04:01 PM   #44
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Hoosier - I think it's great that you gave them a lazyboy to take it easy in....
Those should be some fat, relaxed buds, lol.
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Old 08-17-2008, 05:38 PM   #45
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boss429 has grown tall and bushy.boss429 has grown tall and bushy.

the attatchments dont work?

sweet design! what's an autopot or smart valve? where and how much? (home de-pot i'm sure)
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Old 08-17-2008, 07:51 PM   #46
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I designed a system w/4" PVC pipe that would allow me to leave for a few days with little worry.
This is a shallow water culture using the Autopot Smart Valve for control.
I have a res that gravity feeds the Smart Valve, and all I need to do is keep the nute res filled.
The res has a bubbler stone, and the tube itself has a 48" bubbler line.
The Smart Valve allows nutes in at a depth of 1" and stops. It will not refill the tube until the current charge is used up.
This was built to fit my cab flower chamber, but it can be made to any size at all with the use of just one Smart Valve. The sytem doesn't care if there are 5 or 50 plants, it only needs a sufficient sized res.

http://www.gardenscure.com/420/attachment.php?attachmentid=245301&stc=1&d=1218975559
http://www.gardenscure.com/420/attachment.php?attachmentid=245302&stc=1&d=1218975667

Thats nice, it will work!
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:42 PM   #47
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hoosierhash is starting to vegetate.

Thanks for the kind words.

The $20 valve can be had here:
Smartvalve MKII

Let me run down the costs of this puppy...
4 -4" 90's @ $4ea $16
1 5ft 4" pipe $7
48" bubbler wand $14
air pump $10
two port air bank $3
20ft silicone air line $8
10 ft 1/4 nylon tubing $3
Smart Valve $20
Pots (Nawsome pet treat containers or Pringles cans)
Total $81
add for reservoir cost (Coleman cooler, etc...) & fittings $30
If you have your own res, you are in under $100 for a fully functional shallow water culture hydro system.
Looks good too.

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Old 08-18-2008, 12:19 PM   #48
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Hempy is not low maintenance. You'll be watering hempy buckets frequently once the plants are larger. Unless you were to setup a drip setup its probably the highest maintenance of all.

Ebb&flow with a very large reservoir would be perhaps the lowest maintenance. DWC with a very large reservoir would also be fairly low maintenance. If you add a float valve you could leave it for periods of a week or more.

Check out the bio-bucket guys they've got some good threads on interconnecting buckets.

I would reccomend using PVC and bulkhead fittings or uniseals, Tubing and grommits are unreliable. You could theoretically hook up a DWC bucket or two to a 50 gallon reservoir and leave them for quite some time.

Your biggest enemy is going to be roots clogging the drains and overflowing the buckets.

i disagree. check out my current diesel clone grow. go with an extended hempy resevoir and you just fill the res about once every 5 days. once every 3-4 days late in flower. keep the rez level between 1 and two inches, and let it get close to drying out occasionally. you dont even water individual plants, all plants receive relatively equal amounts of constant water. the bigger plants can draw from the extended rez when the smaller plants dont really need to...

just take 4-6 hempy buckets set them in a short rubbermaid, drill holes on the buckets at 2", 1", .5", and one or two on the bottom of the buckets. now just fill the rubbermaid to the top the the bucket holes at 2". nothin more to it.

say goodbye to wondering if that big plant will dry out overnight since that smaller plant still feels moist.

i have my extended rez in a clear rubbermaid... something like 5$ a pop. 6 clones in each. algea was only a problem during the plants' youngest stages, when the roots would not take up enough water quick enough to discourage growth. It never got out of hand.. some hydrogen peroxide on first sight on algea growth fixes that fairly immediately.

i dunno... just my ive done soil, DWC, ebb&flo, hempy, and extended rez hempy..... EXhempy is easily the easiest of them all.
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Ah but have you tried DWC with an extended rez?

I only touch my DWC moms once every 2 weeks an they do pretty well... Actually I probably have to chop them so they dont grow into the lights more often than I have to top up the reservoir or add nutes... I use 4 networked 14 gallon rubbermaids... for about 45- 50 gallons of water total... I only put 6 plants in two of them. the other two are just empty extra reservoirs with pumps in them recirculating nutrient solution back to the primary ones.


So I guess the bottom line is... It doesnt matter what hydro method you choose... Just get the biggest reservoir you can fit and it will be low maintenance. lol (excluding aeroponics)
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Ah but have you tried DWC with an extended rez?

I only touch my DWC moms once every 2 weeks an they do pretty well... Actually I probably have to chop them so they dont grow into the lights more often than I have to top up the reservoir or add nutes... I use 4 networked 14 gallon rubbermaids... for about 45- 50 gallons of water total... I only put 6 plants in two of them. the other two are just empty extra reservoirs with pumps in them recirculating nutrient solution back to the primary ones.


So I guess the bottom line is... It doesnt matter what hydro method you choose... Just get the biggest reservoir you can fit and it will be low maintenance. lol (excluding aeroponics)

haha.. yep, that about sums it up! the bigger your rez. the less maintenance you will have.

i think i prefer hempy over more aggressive forms of hydro b/c i have to plug less appliances in. no air pumps, water pumps, or crowded electrical strips. Im running my whole cab off of 4 cords. Three for the flower cab (AC, cool-tube exhaust, and lighting), and one plug for the moms' lighting setup.

as for mom & hempy.. i just put them in rubber maids. im convinced hempy doesnt even need overflow holes. the moms dont get them. i just feel the weight of the tub and decide when its time to water. the moms, under 45 to 120w of CFL's, dont really use much water... they could probably go two weeks.

heres a pic... not trying to show off buds or anything here, just note the extended res hempy on the sides... and the mom plants in the middle without any hempy holes drilled at all. the middle tub is something like 6.5 gallons... i usually give it 1-1.5 gallons at a time and it goes for a while. no individual hand watering of each plant. i just fill 3 separate containers to water 14 plants.


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