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Old 10-25-2003, 02:13 PM   #1
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Just started the 6th week of flowering a crop of Shishkeberry that is supposed to take at least 7 weeks. The flowering mass of some of my girls is too great and they are starting to lift out of their hydroton/buckets . I have attached 2 pix of the worst case.

My grow room is just part of my basement walled off with panda plastic, so it is not practical to try to anchor to a wall. I have managed to wrap a dish towel around the stem, and use a small rope to tie that to a wall, this is at the very base of the plant. To keep light levels high the plastic does not leave enough room to get a ladder in and anchor to the ceiling. Any suggestions?

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p.s. My arms and shirt are now quite fragrant, the Shishkeberry is quite sweet; must be the 2 Blue Thunders doing all the skunk odor.






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Old 10-25-2003, 03:35 PM   #2
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You could . . .
1. Build a PVC frame that the plant can lean against or you can tie to.
2. Tie a rope from the ceiling and tie the plant to it.
3. Buy a laundry room clothes hanging stand and tie the plants to it.
4. Place a garden rake's business end under your grow bucket/tote such that the handle sticks up into the air and tie the plants to it.
5. Hire a middle school student to hold the plant until harvest.
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Old 10-25-2003, 03:37 PM   #3
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aire - I can't tell from the pic but it looks like your pot/bucket has a lip. Can you drill a hole in the lip and anchor it down, instead of up? Use 3, equidistant around the main stem and you'll have tension in all directions so it doesn't move. Make sense?

Plant looks good man. Another thing you could try might be bungee cords? Or tie string to a brick instead of the pot lips (in case there isn't any), and do the same concept.

Best of luck. Let me know if any of this makes sense or helps. I'll keep checking in.

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Old 10-26-2003, 03:56 AM   #4
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Problem = too small a container for the size of the plant

Without the option to string the plant puppet style from the celing, I would make a tripod out of gardern canes, over the plant to the floor to stop the plant tipping over.

Branch support: Make a sting collar about 2/3 up the plant on the main stem, loose and strong. tie branches up to the collar, alternating sides for stability during the excersise, the main stem takes the weight, and the tripod stabilizes the whole thing if you take another string from the collar to the top of the tripod, tension the string for best results

The more you can stop the rootball moving the better

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Old 10-26-2003, 04:39 AM   #5
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The moral of the story is not to veg for too long. These are 5 gallon buckets. Thankfully it is a drip system so the bucket has stayed put so far, although the plant is pulling out of the hydroton. I am loathe to try and lift the pot out of the bucket to check the roots, for fear that the whole top mass will start to pull through the net pot. This already has to have occured to a certain extent in order for it to have tilted. I will try to rig a tripod in the limited space I have. In any case, I am getting lots of experience working under 40W green light. How much potential will I lose if I start to rinse 7 - 10 days early?

I will use an 8*8 foot space next time, with 2 or 3 drain lines and longer hoses in order to get the room and flexibility to move. Probably put some snow fence up as a trellis as well. I've certainly learned a lot in this 1st grow; unfortunately most of it was the hard way . What's that someone said about 'hindsight always being 20/20...' ?

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aire - we all learn alot thru experience. you'll get this fixed, and look back and laugh when it is over. your experience will help you in future grows.

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Old 10-26-2003, 08:54 AM   #7
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Just moved 1 of the Blue Thunder plants that was in earth into a box for 72 hours of darkness prior to harvest. This gave me a bit of room to move around in the grow area. Used plastic tie-wraps to fasten the plant to the bail of the bucket, then fastened the bail to another tie-wrap in a hole drilled in the bucket rim. Hopefully this will stabilize the plant.

It's kind of weird the BT started flowering same time as the Shish but is further along, about 30 - 40% of the pistils are turning amber. The Shish is supposed to take about 2 weeks less than the BT that Sagarmatha says takes about 64 days. Hard knocks is a tough teached but generally the lesson is well learned; oh well, "what ever does not kill us (or our plants), makes us strong"


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Old 10-27-2003, 05:28 AM   #8
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It's Monday morning and the guy lines seem to be holding, with no sign of the plant dying off. Time to replace the sticky traps and sweep up though.












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