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Old 08-18-2009, 10:01 AM   #11
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im not talking about the folks whove made their dog one of the family.

im talking folks that see the dog as a thing, who should do what its told or get smacked.
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:04 AM   #12
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and you cant really argue with those folks..

no because this is not an opinion.

no, to them, this is a fact , a LAW , straight from the highest authority.

god.

btw, if they happened to be right. you can find me in the rebel camp, doomed of course, since its allmighty, but hey better to die free than live as a slave.

a slave to a monster.

what gets me is how dumb this is, A god that only talks to certain people, IS ALLMIGHTY; yet needs slaves to do its work.

is allloving and wise, yet has the most horrid and ridiculous rules.

its a bit funny. yet ridiculous, yet horrible.

how can anyone be afraid of such a boogeyman?

because thats all it is.

a boogeyman

do this or dont do that.

or god will come and get you. (when you die, eventually)

its like the devil is just put there to make the beast seem a little better. (its in our nature to rebel if there are better choices around)
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:16 AM   #13
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Excellent, a "backward Arab" bitch fest...classy stuff.

The amount of misinformation on the previous page is astounding.

Sso, you mention "alike countries" maybe you should look a bit further into this and find out what countries you are talking about. This is not a question...because it's off-topic. The Islamic religion has nothing to do with this thread.
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:29 AM   #14
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Not really true, and racist. ARAB WORLD | The Arab contribution to civilisation
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We used to have a significant manufacturing base, but not anymore. We've been fortunate that our founding fathers had the "foresight" to separate the church from state. However, it wasn't really foresight at all. It was the result of European religious intolerance, and state sponsored religions. I've had the opportunity to talk to some UAE citizens, and have found them to be just people.
No racist intent was intended cheech wizard. I don't intend to get into a discussion on the merits of European vs Arabic contributions to the human species. I am merely commenting on the fact that dubai seems to be very behind the times in treatment of not only narcotics but women compared to our own backwards policies on narcotics, which are in fact backwards.
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:00 AM   #15
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No racist intent was intended cheech wizard. I don't intend to get into a discussion on the merits of European vs Arabic contributions to the human species. I am merely commenting on the fact that dubai seems to be very behind the times in treatment of not only narcotics but women compared to our own backwards policies on narcotics, which are in fact backwards.
No offense taken. Just wanted to point out that similar attitudes exist many other places. Even here it's only been since the mid '60s since the civil rights amendment, and women are still thought of as second class citizens by a lot of U.S. males. Women had/have been treated as possessions here for quite a while, and there are still far too many people who think a good beating is the way to keep a wife in line.

Inflexible, antiquated beliefs driving the creation of unfair laws continues to be a problem in quite a few places, including the US and Europe. Irrational beliefs seem to be the main reasons our favorite plant is illegal.
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and you cant really argue with those folks..

no because this is not an opinion.

no, to them, this is a fact , a LAW , straight from the highest authority.

god.

btw, if they happened to be right. you can find me in the rebel camp, doomed of course, since its allmighty, but hey better to die free than live as a slave.

a slave to a monster.

what gets me is how dumb this is, A god that only talks to certain people, IS ALLMIGHTY; yet needs slaves to do its work.

is allloving and wise, yet has the most horrid and ridiculous rules.

its a bit funny. yet ridiculous, yet horrible.

how can anyone be afraid of such a boogeyman?

because thats all it is.

a boogeyman

do this or dont do that.

or god will come and get you. (when you die, eventually)

its like the devil is just put there to make the beast seem a little better. (its in our nature to rebel if there are better choices around)
I agree w/ you, in that religious fundamentalism is a major problem. It's almost impossible to engage in a meaningful discussion w/ a fundy. Even worse when the government is run by fundies.
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Old 08-18-2009, 01:07 PM   #17
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i perhaps live in too good a place, that kinda shit drives me bugwild.

because im reminded, that same as with our governments and their druglaws.

there are people against this in the middleeast. im reminded of pictures from iran before the fundamentalist government was installed.

those pictures couldhave been taken in the us or europe. (60´s or 70s)

komet i could name places, but frankly ive been too disgusted and angry with much of what ive read on the middleeast, to even want to research this more.

they are like europe was in the middleages, chopping off hands (even kids) , beheadings and stuff like that.

though frankly usa is thought of by quite a few as not so unlike that. (lack of medical care, deathsentences, fundamentalists in power, bad schools unless you are of the elite)
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That's ridiculous.

I knew a guy from Saudi Arabia though, and he told me that if you get caught selling drugs or alcohol in that country, the penalty is death. I haven't looked into it at all... just taking his word for it. But wow, that would be intense.
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