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Old 09-18-2009, 04:32 PM   #1
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I hope I’m not telling people things they already know but I was watching a documentary show or something last night and it was about northern Califon where they can grow up 25 plants a person for recreational use, I’m sure people know the facts better than me but it was a really interesting show and I suggest other people trying to find the documentary online.

I would find a link myself but my internet connection is slow and acting up.

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Yeah, MJ Inc is pretty cool, even coming from CNBC. I think most people have heard of it by now, but no worries Holly, we won't whip you for it this time.
Here's a direct link to view it @ hulu.

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Yeah, MJ Inc is pretty cool, even coming from CNBC. I think most people have heard of it by now, but no worries Holly, we won't whip you for it this time.
Nice one, cheers for the link - I've never heard of it!
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Yeah,

I saw that. And I have to say *(&^ that. I used to live there and let me tell you it's not they make it out to be. If you think you can move out there, grow 25 plants, you are probably going to jail and your plants will be eradicated the door to your house will be kicked by the sherrif, chp, dea, commet, and mendocino major crimes task force. It will be ransacked any cash or bud will be seized. Any children will be placed in protective custody. Your bail will be $25,000 That said....

It used to be like that! 25 plants was considered the lowest crime in the county. Then reporters like this and articles in High Times influenced people from outside the area and started to stick in everyone's face. 22 year old's driving around in 50,000 cars and trucks isn't cool. Gangs moved in also for the profit. Needless to say the tolerance for this decreased as people watched their peaceful neighborhoods wrecked. Not to mention the rash of home invasions by real criminals. The community at last count was divided 50/50 on keeping the 25 plants. We lost. Now you can have 6. You could maybe get away with 25 in full sun. But you better have some good answers for the 10 -20 LEO's at your door and if they show up, they will all have their guns drawn. 25 is now the per parcel limit and your medical cards better add up and be valid. There is so much more to this than I want to write, but it's not the dream as portrayed by the media.

Sorry to sound so negative, but that's kinda how it is and the media attention certainly didn't help.

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Yeah and there's a guy in San Diego that's being held by the feds right now and he doesn't even grow. He owned a prop 215 compliant collective.
Not to hijack the tread, but check this out. If you want to help him.

As you may know by now our MIA collective was raided on the 9th of September along with numerous other collectives throughout the San Diego area. Of the numerous collectives, only two owner operators were arrested under federal charges. Why these individuals where arrested under federal charges is unclear. Our very own James Stacy has been under federal custody with no communication and at one point he could not even be located for two days. The injustice and non-adherence of California Proposition 215 should not be tolerated. We were making so much progress. We would really appreciate if you please show your proactive support by doing one or more of the following to help James Stacy:



1. Call the White House at 202 456-1111 between the hours of 9am to 5 pm Eastern time or in other words 6:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. pacific time. Leave a message indicating for Barack Obama that the (DEA) is raiding legitimate medicinal marijuana collectives. Send him the letter addressed to President Obama from pg. 2.



2. Contact your local state assembly person Lori Saldana, at Welcome | California Assemblymember Lori Saldaña Representing the 76th Assembly District,

You can attach the file we have prepared or write to her about the injustice the local city governments are carrying out by regarding federal laws over state laws.



3. e-mail all your friends and supporters, and inform them of James Stacy’s case, and ask them to please show their support as well



4. Contact Marti Emerald martiemerald@sandiego.gov,

Donna Frye donnafrye@sandiego.gov

Todd Gloria toddgloria@sandiego.gov

and attach the information file addressed accordingly to whom you are e-mailing.



Our only choice is to expose the illegal operation, to the public, of both the state and federal authorities in the hopes to have the charges dismissed. We can do so through the use of communicating the facts to our members and friends both online and through any other means of communication. Thank you for your support, and we hope that we can support all of you once again in the near future.



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Vista, CA 92084

movementinaction@gmail.org























Hello Marti



On Wednesday September 9th, 2009 the DEA in cooperation with state, local and county authorities raided numerous collectives in the San Diego area. Two of the collective owner operators were charged federally while the others were charged by the state.



James Stacy, of the Movement in Action collective in Vista California, was one of the persons to be charged federally. Movement in Action was Proposition 215 and SB 420 compliant and should have fallen under state laws. Why he was arrested under federal charges is unclear. What is clear is that under federal jurisdiction he cannot submit the fact that he is a Medicinal Marijuana Patient.



It’s apparent why the state, county and local authorities have decided to allow the federal government to intervene. The authorities could not charge a collective that was in compliance with all state laws. This allowed the DEA to step in and harass James by using Draconian measures. It took friends and family two days to finally locate him after the raid. This is unjust and should not be tolerated by anyone.



In regards to James Stacy’s case could you please advocate for the dismissal of all federal charges against him?



Sincerely,









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Washington, DC 20500





Dear President Obama



On Wednesday September 9th, 2009 the DEA in cooperation with state, local and county authorities raided numerous collectives in the San Diego area. Two of the collective owner operators were charged federally while the remainders were charged by the state.



James Stacy of the Movement in Action collective in Vista, California was one of the persons to be charged federally. Movement in Action was Proposition 215 and SB 420 compliant and should have fallen under state laws. Why he was arrested under federal charges is unclear. Please investigate this injustice as it is a matter of great importance for both Medicinal Marijuana Patients and their medicinal need providers.



As listed in your memorandum dated May 20, 2009 “Preemption of state law by executive departments and agencies should be undertaken only with full consideration of the legitimate prerogatives of the states and with a sufficient legal basis for preemption”. The DEA has clearly in this case preempted California state laws by raiding legitimate medicinal marijuana collectives that are Proposition 215 and SB 420 compliant.



In our federal system, the citizens of the several states have distinctive circumstances and values, and that in many instances it is appropriate for them to apply to themselves rules and principles that reflect these circumstances and values such as Proposition 215 and SB 420. In regards to James Stacy’s case could you please intervene to dismiss all federal charges against him?



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Old 09-19-2009, 08:44 AM   #6
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I enjoyed Marijuana Inc as well.

If you have netflix you can watch a few documentaries streaming online or order the disks.

Currently Netflix has
Super High Me
High: The True Tale of American Marijuana
High Times Presents: The Cannabis Cup
Magic Weed (on disk)
Pot in Pans: Cooking with Marijuana (on disk) have not watched this one yet.

I also found that you can stream at google movies
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I enjoyed Marijuana Inc as well.

If you have netflix you can watch a few documentaries streaming online or order the disks.

Currently Netflix has
Super High Me
High: The True Tale of American Marijuana
High Times Presents: The Cannabis Cup
Magic Weed (on disk)
Pot in Pans: Cooking with Marijuana (on disk) have not watched this one yet.

I also found that you can stream at google movies
The Union
Grass: A Marijuana History

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Yeah cool post too and thread ....sorry Holly. This documentaries really are very informative and interesting to say the least. A good watch for everyone

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Yeah.. these shows romanticizing the "green rush" in the Emerald Triangle isn't really helping anything.
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I saw that. And I have to say *(&^ that. I used to live there and let me tell you it's not they make it out to be. If you think you can move out there, grow 25 plants, you are probably going to jail and your plants will be eradicated the door to your house will be kicked by the sherrif, chp, dea, commet, and mendocino major crimes task force. It will be ransacked any cash or bud will be seized. Any children will be placed in protective custody. Your bail will be $25,000 That said....

It used to be like that! 25 plants was considered the lowest crime in the county. Then reporters like this and articles in High Times influenced people from outside the area and started to stick in everyone's face. 22 year old's driving around in 50,000 cars and trucks isn't cool. Gangs moved in also for the profit. Needless to say the tolerance for this decreased as people watched their peaceful neighborhoods wrecked. Not to mention the rash of home invasions by real criminals. The community at last count was divided 50/50 on keeping the 25 plants. We lost. Now you can have 6. You could maybe get away with 25 in full sun. But you better have some good answers for the 10 -20 LEO's at your door and if they show up, they will all have their guns drawn. 25 is now the per parcel limit and your medical cards better add up and be valid. There is so much more to this than I want to write, but it's not the dream as portrayed by the media.

Sorry to sound so negative, but that's kinda how it is and the media attention certainly didn't help.

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Yep, Fully agree, That little show didn't help at all. I'm in the heart of it myself and it has definitely been a ride. Of course that vid is fairly recent but it sure did make it seem like while the hell aren't you here taking advantage of this? I can't tell you how many people I'm aware of that moved here from the midwest or whereever, some even dragging entire extended families for godsake then proceeded to rent multiple houses and fill them with lights. Not to mention their outdoor grows.
No, It went way overboard. I couldn't drive down my street without smelling weed the whole way. Not to mention friggen tops sticking up so high you could see them three houses down, Still can actually. Some guy down the way grows em so big he built a shanty wall above his fence to block 'em, lol.
I like the smell of weed growing but man there is a point where I can understand these poor folks in town who don't grow saying come on. It was just intense on a hot day.

So ya It's changing, Its been a while now, couple years I think of 6 plants in town indoor only. Berts right 25 per parcel, no more everyone in the house has a ticket so we got 500 plants on the hill, lol. This year is the first I've heard of cops coming around and "suggesting" 6 is the law. I've talked to a few folks that have gotten a visit but not a followup and they still have 25. Believe it or not the sheriff considers an otherwise legal grow less than 25 to be an abatement issue. Until next year that is.
So we're apparently going to a band system. 6 max anywhere. Mendocino Co. is actually considering a tax band system and getting in the act. County is broke. So I haven't heard the final word, probably $100. per band. Veteran discount..lol But I hear talk that if the Co. does that, cooperatives are the way to go since it will be at least locally sanctioned.
Ya right, black helicopters are still parked at the airport every night.
So it goes on but things are changing for sure.
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