AlienSix

I've been studying these lights for hours today, and I think I can answer this. First of all, I think your numbers are a bit off (except maybe for the Fluorex 9027 but that really isnt what these people are discussing mostly). I'm pretty sure most of these people are buying the 65 watt fluorex bulbs for 20-30 bucks, and the lumens are somewhere in the 8000-8900 range (I only saw 1 post saying they had a fluorex that does 6000's). Now if you're FLOWERING a large amount of plants, an HPS will be best due to its slightly greater $/Lum and much better red spectrum.

Now details aside, here's why I think the fluorex kicks ass: flexability, expandability, and both without wasting your money. Most products dont work like this, I'm trying to think of an analogy here and here's the best I have right now: If you had a real crappy slow pos car (ford tempo, lol, sorry i had one and it sucked), and you took the *fluorex method* of adding powerful performance parts additions to actually get your tempo to be a fast car, you'd spend a fortune probably to get it to a nice speedy car. Now if you took the *HPS method* and just bought a porsche to begin with you would save yourself headaches and such and most likely wind up with a faster car for less money. ACTUAL FLUOREX LIGHTS ARENT LIKE THIS! You won't have a need to replace them, you can use them to supplement your HPS if you ever have enough plants to need one! You can choose to have 1 plant, 2 plants, 3, etc and buy fluorex accordingly without worrying about wasting your money in the long run.

Last thing I have to say is that for people who don't have cash for an immediate 300$ HPS system and multiple plants can stay cost effective RIGHT NOW and in the long run with these lights. Also if they just want to run a low risk operation with 1 plant or so, much easier without an HPS. I guess the bottom line is that HPS is the king of lights in its *weight class* hehe, and likewise fluorex looks to be the king of lights in its class also, small and powerful

lol wow looking up I wrote a lot, too bad I couldn't get credit for an essay like that in high school

wantfreshnuggz

lights of america makes several fluorex models...2 of which are very bright....both are 65 watts....One is a shoplight with puts out 8900 lumens and then there's the dusk til dawn light, which I have, that puts out 6825 lumens. All of there fluorex models have a color temp of 6500K and a CRI of 84. Aside from that there was a 150watt HPS security light at lowe's for $84. I'm not sure on the lumen output of it though.

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powercow9

from the bottom of the box in fine print. Brightness Lumens are NOT equivalent to photopic lumens... bla bla bla

now the flourex I have has 6,825 BRIGHTNESS lumens... I'm not sure how to convert them into the real photopic lumens... They are kinda like the heat index or wind chill.. it's how bright the lights seem to be.. so if you put them nex to a 7000 lumen MH then they would look compareable but if you messure the acccual foot candles you get completely different scores.

I'm not knocking them... they are bright...and farely cool, hell I bought 2 of em. but the lumens may not be what you think they are... we need someone with a light tester.[

snow2board

Aliensix, great conclusion for flourex value, I to believe they are GREAT starter lights (dispite all the marketing scams and misleading info that newbies are exposed to), and recomend them to all small, first time and low budget growers. I just bought my second one today.