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Old 11-01-2009, 01:26 PM   #1
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Okay folks, had to move out of my last place that was ideal in having been wired for an electric kiln previously. I am seeking advice on what to look for in a new place. Not looking for advice on whether to grow in a rental or not, because I'm already decided there.

So, what I would like to run is 3X 1,000 and 2X 400 (flower and veg) and the associated fans and whatnot. I already have the gear.

Suppose my question is what to look for. That is, in the USA, what are the general amps for say washer/dryer outlets/electric stove etc. How many lights could be run off a average washer/dryer outlet? How many off a electric stove outlet?

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Old 11-01-2009, 04:25 PM   #2
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So, what I would like to run is 3X 1,000 and 2X 400 (flower and veg) and the associated fans and whatnot. I already have the gear.
That is a lot to be running off one circuit for sure. if you are running all that in one room you will need two separate circuits going into the one room or one fairly heavy duty circuit. The heavy duty circuit would be unusual going to a standard outlet in a standard house .
If I were to wire it somewhere around a 4mm to the fuse board and 2.5ml between outlets on a 40-50 amp breaker . Check what circuits there are on the fuse board I guess and see if they have any larger fuses installed . It may be a mission finding a suitable room to "plug and play" .


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Suppose my question is what to look for. , what are the general amps for say washer/dryer outlets/electric stove etc. How many lights could be run off a average washer/dryer outlet? How many off a electric stove outlet?
Usually stoves have their own circuit and will draw up to 32 amps for a full electric stove , washing machines usually 2-6 amps and electric dryers on full heat 8 - 18 amps . basically if it has an element in it , it is going to draw a lot of current .

(speaking from a non American point of view )
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:41 PM   #3
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Usually stoves have their own circuit and will draw up to 32 amps for a full electric stove , washing machines usually 2-6 amps and electric dryers on full heat 8 - 18 amps . basically if it has an element in it , it is going to draw a lot of current .

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Okay, if I get this right, watts=ampsXvolts. So an electric stove on 240 volt and 32 amps would be 7,680 watts? Is this right? Again, I had the luxery of pre-installed industrial electric at the last place I had a scene in, so pardon my ignorance here. Seems to me like I was able to run 3, 1000 watt lamps off a dryer outlet before. Also, the getup I am talking about is two seperate rooms, perpetual grow style, with 2 400's for veg and 3 1000's for flower although this could be a partioned room.

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Okay, if I get this right, watts=ampsXvolts. So an electric stove on 240 volt and 32 amps would be 7,680 watts? Is this right? Again, I had the luxery of pre-installed industrial electric at the last place I had a scene in, so pardon my ignorance here. Seems to me like I was able to run 3, 1000 watt lamps off a dryer outlet before. Also, the getup I am talking about is two seperate rooms, perpetual grow style, with 2 400's for veg and 3 1000's for flower although this could be a partioned room.
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You can easily turn a dryer or washer receptacle into a 240 volt receptacle or two 120 volt receptacles. You are right about your math if the stove draws 32 amps. Check a stove to make sure. That would mean a stove circuit will handle your 3 1000w and 2 400w. Stoves use 8 gauge wire but you shouldnt put that on a 15 amp receptacle. If I were to use a pre-existing stove circuit I would switch the 40 amp breaker to a split 30amp breaker and junction the stove box into two 20amp receptacles.
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Okay, if I get this right, watts=ampsXvolts. So an electric stove on 240 volt and 32 amps would be 7,680 watts? Is this right?
How the hell are you going to cook food

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Seems to me like I was able to run 3, 1000 watt lamps off a dryer outlet before. Also, the getup I am talking about is two seperate rooms.
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If you are running two seperate rooms it should be fairly easy to balance a couple of circuits or even bring another outlet off a third circuit if they are getting heavily loaded.
I would advise to go for the house with the pool and worry about setting up a room later
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[quote=Darkdreamer;1315143]How the hell are you going to cook food

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Ah, food is overrated! Part of my consideration is that I have a industrial timer that I wired to a dryer cord (240 volt) and also an array of four 240 volt outlets for ballasts (switchable ballast though) which I used on a previous scene. I'm just going to need to look around at places and find a rental that is suitable. Cost is a consideration, but also privacy and ease of setting up a scene that can also be deconstructed quickly (1-2 days). If all I need to do is set up a frame with screws and panda plastic, and use existing electric, cut a hole in a panel of drywall (panel I can replace later) for vent fan, I can dissappear a scene quickly. Just unscrew, rescrew, unplug the electric and good to go. With hugely modified electric I would be looking at a more altered house and it would all be harder to conceal if need be.
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Ah, food is overrated! Part of my consideration is that I have a industrial timer that I wired to a dryer cord (240 volt) and also an array of four 240 volt outlets for ballasts (switchable ballast though) which I used on a previous scene. I'm just going to need to look around at places and find a rental that is suitable. Cost is a consideration, but also privacy and ease of setting up a scene that can also be deconstructed quickly (1-2 days). If all I need to do is set up a frame with screws and panda plastic, and use existing electric, cut a hole in a panel of drywall (panel I can replace later) for vent fan, I can dissappear a scene quickly. Just unscrew, rescrew, unplug the electric and good to go. With hugely modified electric I would be looking at a more altered house and it would all be harder to conceal if need be.
you can always just run armored cable around the place, from the panel, to your equiptment. You run it on the exterior of the walls, or along the floorboards whatever and can easily pull it off and take it with you.
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I agree that armored electic would be nice, but it would still be nice to start at an already in place, electrical source. The wire, armored or not, can be easily removed. More tricky is the source of that wire.
I appreciate the input. I'm thinking online here folks, so pardon the thoughs coming from this poor, abused, brain. Really very grateful for the input.
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