A question for med users/ suppliers - Page 2

**bobbooty** · 05-21-2009, 03:16 PM

they didnt used to need my patient information when i provided my product to the club, the rules change constantly, and i think the clubs have to adapt. now they do. i am not worried about "shit rolling downhill" because i have yet to see that happen. i have not seen a club busted, and ALL of its members taken with it. i use my real name, i pay taxes on the money i get for selling to the club (1099) at the end of the year, and the numbers and figures all jives with my real self employed business. i use my real name, i dont have a problem with that. there are at least 15-20 growers that the club i work for deals with.

afaik, the club i work for cannot do any "deals off the books", because you have to be a patient to buy or sell.

becoming a supplier is another matter. bring in a sample, a couple grams, to the club. talk to the owner. ask questions. if you dont succeed at one club, try another one. if you know the owner, that helps. being accepted as a supplier isnt easy, but once you do get accepted, the rest no problem. i havent had any problems, ive been supplying the club i work for, for over 2 years now.

sharpdog · 05-21-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by swordfish

Would that be "on" or "off" the books. They claim to not buy walk in anonomous transactions but if your a patient or member, anotherwords they have a "paper trail" on you as a member they claim to be willing to buy your meds. This doesnt always serve the discreet growers interests in my opinion as the old adage "shit rolls down hill" if the club you are slinging elbows to gets audited by whoever may be doing a lets look at this clubs transaction records in the event they should come under investigation, which they frequently do, your name may just pop up. There are some members that are cool with receiving a 1099div every year of which they must declare their earnings. If you are this bold in the sense you know the club owners like family and have enough to hire a lawyer should you need one I suppose you could take the risk of selling through your real name to the clubs.

One would think a deal off the books would command a lower price for the pounds your trying to offload. This way your identity is unknown to the club and to anybody for that matter. Problem with this approach is you wont get past the front door unless your sighned up with them and they know who you are. Example; If a given club will pay me $4000 a pound for top drawer OG Kush useing my membership info, as a grower I would rather settle for $2500 a pound and keep it a back door deal.

I have traded 3 for 1 on a few occasions with some outdoor bud I wanted to get rid of in exchange for some indoor grown indica for a headstash. Makeing cash transactions with a club with your identitiy know to the club to me just seems risky. They could hold on to that info with the strictest of confidence and refuse never to reveal etc etc. If their having a "Mayday" you might get dragged into whatever mess they sometimes find themselves in.

Swordfish the shit does not run down hill especially in an audit. IF you keep proper records and pay your taxes then nothing can be done to you audit wise. Now if you get audited and have not kept proper books well then your fucked but that is your bad for not keeping proper books and paper trail. IF you are operating leagally then most of the time a paper trail is your best friend. IF that was the case then there would not be a supplier for any product that is being sold legally.

Thanks bobbooty maybe its just a pipe dream but one day i hope to be making a living as a legal supplier.

Sharp

swordfish · 05-21-2009, 06:32 PM

In all respect if being a legal supplier is OK with you fine. I can see where some of you even have tenure and can forsee know fallout with being associated with the club as a supplier on the up and up. Please dont dismiss my attempt at taking a stance where the grower shows up with the product and requests a buyout without being associated with the establishment in any way. Take it or leave it type of transaction. What difference does it make where the pot came from? The owner may need to keep records or show transparancy but the grower wants total annonimity. So what if the pot store owner has to comply with laws and such related to running his business. I could care less about the rules he must comply with to stock his store. I wish to be on the outside of any of this and not have my name appear anywhere in his operations.

OK so you all are correct. I have tromp'ed into a few clubs with a fat backpack of nugs and been dissapointed when the club people tried to set me straight about how they go about acquireing meds. Their buying methods allow them to "cover their ass" but dont allow you to "cover your ass" at the same time.

*Luke Highwalker* · 05-21-2009, 10:00 PM

sword - exactly. when its all said and done "they" will have a list of every big grower in cali. do with it what they may. just because they havent doesnt mean they cant, or wont.

**bobbooty** · 05-21-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke Highwalker

sword - exactly. when its all said and done "they" will have a list of every big grower in cali. do with it what they may. just because they havent doesnt mean they cant, or wont.

i have yet to see a club take members with them. i have seen clubs get shut down, but nothing else came of it. i have not heard of growers busted because of the clubs either. the only cases where the growers did get busted, was because they were a part of the club itself, like they were a co op with the club, usually a huge operation, somewhere, not even on site.

swordfish · 05-22-2009, 07:42 AM

True story; I walked into three different pot shops with a backpack full of some very dank trimmed club grade or better bud. All three clubs dissmissed me out of hand and said they could not do business with me. Whats up with that? OK, they may think im a cop? Well if they want a good price on some nice meds they will stop asking all these questions, stick their noses in the jar and take a big wiff and then decide to peal off the Ben Franklins. The pot was outstanding but all three clubs gave me their gobblygoook on procedures they must follow etc etc. The principle procedure is that I be a member of their establishment before they could do business with them. This reeks of rollability. Not sure if rollability is even a word but I hope you see where im going with this.

**bobbooty** · 05-22-2009, 01:40 PM

they give me a similar speech when they dont want/need meds. maybe they just dont want your business. a few different clubs didnt want my outdoor product. i got a similar speech when i tried to basically give away my outdoor product. i ended up giving it to the club i now work for, for free. just to be rid of it. you basically have to keep trying, not everyday, but just keep trying. they lose "vendors" for whatever reason, and they will need another supplier, eventually.

your opinion of "dank" "trimmed" and "club grade" may differ from whoever you are showing it to. you need to be on the same page as the owner/employee, in that definition. i thought my shit was "dank" "trimmed tight" "club grade" too, when i went in the club i now work for, originally. the owner set me aside, and showed me exactly how he wants the buds to look, every time. it wasnt what i thought it was. he took a few unmanicured buds and showed me how he wants it trimmed. he pointed to several different piles of weed and pointed out the outdoor vs indoor. he showed me how he can tell, the difference between inland and coastal pot (outdoor grown). he should know, he works there 12hrs a day, and looks at pot all day long. its all about packaging. its all about looks. its all about demand. not whats the strongest pot, or "best" pot.

vapedg13 · 05-22-2009, 02:21 PM

Look at it from a store owners perspective...some joe blow comes into his store with weed ... the owner doesnt know how the person grew it or what chemicals he used....would you want to sell your med patients some weed that was fucked up??

Example.....Get some newbie that had spidermites and he sprayed his plants with avid 2-3 weeks before harvest...that shit is still in the weed

Stonewallace · 05-23-2009, 10:42 AM

Differs county by county but here in the East SF Bay Area, Medicann charges you $150 for a script good for one year. High grade is 44-60 an 1/8. Clones are $12-13. In Oakland you are allowed 72 indoor plants and 20 outdoor for a total of 92. They also passed measure Z which makes marijuana the lowest police priority. In Berkeley last year they passed that you're only limited by what your neighbors can see.

Afew Brickshort · 05-23-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vapedg13

Look at it from a store owners perspective...some joe blow comes into his store with weed ... the owner doesnt know how the person grew it or what chemicals he used....would you want to sell your med patients some weed that was fucked up??

Example.....Get some newbie that had spidermites and he sprayed his plants with avid 2-3 weeks before harvest...that shit is still in the weed

Sounds like a great opportunity for grow journals.

Give the store owner a link to your journal... ( this is in a hypothetically cannabis friendly country ) ... then the owner and/or the patients can see where and/or how it was grown.

Or the idea sucks and I'm just wasting hard drive space.

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