Don_Hydro

Thanks in advance, mycorrhizae fungi as presoak ROCKWOOL.

My goal is to pre-treat, the rockwool "soak water" with beneficial. bio bacteria . get a good cultured tea going for the soak.

Question: after introduction of the bio bacteria: it will die off rather quickly, will the molasses be enough carbs to keep bacteria from dieing off? If so, how long will it last? i only need a day or so.

I found a link but not MJ. it's a great read if you want. enough to know i'm on the right track.
This one is on cuttings at a bonsai hobby place
http://www.yorkbonsai.co.uk/better_quality_cuttings.pdf


Thanks again

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bluebloodletter

I'm no fungi expert, but from reading that, and from what I've been doing, I reckon its a root colonization you'll be wanting, as opposed to a medium colonization. Being fungi, it should grow to whatever population that can be accommodated. So as long as you introduce it in the rockwool whenever you plant, and keep it moist, you should be ok.
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komet

Molasses will help but the bacteria will start to die off after about 6-8 hrs in an anaerobic environment.

pumpkin2006

What kind of ph environment are you going to be keeping them in? mycorrhizae only have a place in organics, where they will be feed properly. Advanced nutrients puts out phirana or something like that, that is MIKE, they make you use this stuff called liquid carboload (also powder form), this is some complex carbs for the mike to feed off of.

I don't see how they could really do much good in rockwool. I forget which, kind, but one of them forms long strings over the soil and create a web that moves nutrients threw the soil. The other form a slimly coat on roots and feed off of organic, inaccessible to plant, nutrients and then excrete a usable form, thats why their so cool. If your using hydro nutrients, which it sounds like you are if your using rockwool, their pointless; all of your nutrients are in a chelated (available) form already.

I would suggest some BB like the ones in Hydrogard, they a really good at fighting off root diseases.

b4420

Are you sure about that? I've been trying to get an answer to that question, but haven't got one yet.

I must be not understanding something. I thought if I used the fungi and fed it with some Liquid Karma, it would basically make the roots bigger (in effect) and able to take in more fertilizer. But then I hear where the fertilizer (non-organic) is just killing the fungi.

I even wrote the fungi guy, but he was kind of vague, as one would expect.

pumpkin2006

LK is the bomb, but fungi are hard to grow. You need to be able to feed them, LK does have some carbs (sugars or real terms: polysaccharides), my question for you is: why do you want them in all your nutrients are chelated to begin with? Also what happens when the small amount of "food" runs out. If running in a soiless medium, half of them are pointless because they have no home.

dontask

You cant pre-innoc the medium with live fungi, but you can with their spores.

I recommend making a low-temperature highly-aerated tea using Organic Blackstrap Molasses, your Spores ( Rooters Myco//Subculture ) and soaking your cubes in this immediately ( read:1-4 hours ) before putting your plugs/seedlings into it.

Myco's cant survive ( readther than spores ) without their host roots.

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pumpkin2006

Endomycorrhizae are the only kinds that are going to benefit from what your doing. I still don't know your environmental's, but I don't see them living for very long.

Ectomycorrhizae wont live at all in a rockwool system.

I don't think it'll be worth your trouble; but have at and tell me if it works.

Don_Hydro

here it is, my answer!
Good luck to all who find this and heed!

Do I Need Mycorrhizal

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pumpkin2006

Sorry but what conclusion did you come to? That just babbled a bunch of stuff I already knew about; it didn't address if they would survive in a soil-less medium or at what ph they need.