Jai guru deva

you compaired organics to pills

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ILLEGAL-SEED

i did? i belive it was cannabis is natural, unlike pills that are chemical? are you disagreeing with this? i didnt compare cannabis to pills, but if youd like me to, i think cannabis can be used for 2/3rds of the pills on the market.

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indicapro

well i see that we are debating organics and refined nutes here.??

i thought this original poster needed some advice and user experience's with AN products and thier plus program and connosieur.

who gives a figgity fuck about organics and pills!!!

to the original poster, when you use the conny, go really easy on the ec, cuz that stuff has poly amino alcohols in it or something like that, neverthe less there is a type of alcohol in connosieur, thats what makes it so unique and so potent. so you want to use like 1.0 ec max with that stuff no more till you have at least a little experience with it.

it took me a little learning curve till i mastered the plus program using sensi 2 part, but when i did get the feeding dialed in with the plus regimine, HOLLY TOLEDO, or should i say HOLLY TANITA.lol

plus program harvest could possibly break the scale, if you know what i mean

Jai guru deva

ya i dunno this is retarded expecially with people who dont even read what the other people wrote b4 they say somthing

not cannabis to pills

and i asked WHY its better for you and you gave me a piss poor analogy not explaining ANYTHING and then call out another member saying THEIR anologys were bad your just following the "fad" oooo organics im soo good to the earth im the best human ever ooo lala i like to sniff my own farts

its ok that my pot will taste and burn better than yours

im not going to contribute to this thread anymore it should be closed for off topic and being retarded as hell

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aerodonus

Finally some input that I acutally care about.
Jai and Illegal expressed nothing notable to this conversation except their opinions.

However, I appreciate the info IndicaPro. I ran through one cycle with the conny, and am very pleased with the end result. I believe that it is superior to DM gold, botaincare proseries, GH, and regular sensi. Having used all those products before, I can say that the high cost is justified by the end result.

I will continue to use this product despite people bitching about the price. If your that broke your doing something wrong.

indicapro

exactly aeordonus, YOU started a thread thinking that you might get at least a couple people that would help you out and contribute to the thread in a positive manner or negative even, but not a pissing contest about organics and fucking big pharma co.

so ive used all those products too, and liked the 2 part sensi plus program's results and am sticking with it till it runs out. then i might try some conny, but honestly i dont think i could get much better results with the conny, and is so then i would love to pay whatever they ask for it.

so how do you use it i see you have had a run with it and how was it and what were ALL of the supplements and additives you used and how much and when??

and what about the conny crop was better than the sensi 2 part crop?? when you used the sensi 2 part did you use the WHOLE plus program?? or just a little fo this and that added to it, and if so what was it??

dont mean to seem like an interogator, but advanced nutrients can be triccky to use and we as AN users whould post up all that we do with AN stuff and how much and when.

so lets unite and maybe we could start a sub forum for AN user's like @ icmag.com, i hve personal issues with some folks over there and stopped lurking and posting there, serious reasons are behind my absense from that site but it is well justified and i would rather err on the side of caution and safetly and security, then to fuck around with my freedom.

never the less bro i would greatly appreciate you letting me know how you have used conny and what works for you and what doesnt or didnt. cause i since writing this post have also ordered a set of quarts of conny from DAN, the hype got me.lol but i dont want to have to go through a big learning curve, that is characteristic of AN products.

thier nutes and stuff are GREAT, but require a little bit of nute burn here and there to get mastered and dialed in, .....you know what i mean, aerodonus.

ILLEGAL-SEED

i told him organics? if theres something wrong with that, i guess that im sorry for answering his request? thanks. and im not an earth freak, i dont use organics to not pollute. if you think chems in your bud 3 days before harvest tastes good, hey, please continue to do ya thang.

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i dont think that nutes in my buds at 3 days b4 harvest is good....if that was even aimed at me.

and to be factual, the organics leave more shit in the buds that are not used up by the plant than any non-organic nute would, having been properly flushed.

also people DO flush organics out, every reall organic grower i know at least.

no one goes to the hilt full bore till harvest day wheather organic or refined.

its just that non-organic nutes are quicker to flush and stay gone when flushed, as organics , certain types of mixes (soil) will release more nutes no matter how much you flush and that there is really leaving residues in your buds.

soma says that he gives plain water for like 3 weeks prior to harvest, becasue of the nature of organic nutes in the soil, he has to start a plain water flush that early to totally ensure that the buds will burn and taste good.

same goes with non-organic nutes, if not flushed you get a lovely crackle and burn in your esophagus, i personally dont like that, and have never grown any weed that was not praised by all who smoke it for both quallity and taste.

actually last run i grew three speed queen plants (mandala seeds) in four gallon pots, with the moonshine mans soil mix. one bag of ocean forest, one bag of light warrior, and one bag of happy frog, and some dry organics from fox farm. all organic, nothing but plain old water (ro) and they were good looking plants and smelled good and had tight dense buds and all that good shit and none of the bads stuff , perfect grow, perfect harvest, no deficianies at all in veg or flower (till the end of course when i run them so the leaves get autumn colors)

and this run i grew 9 wappa (paradise seeds) and 3 speed queen plants in promix hp, and fertilized exactly like the nute calculator tells you to.

now both crops were bomb, but i did not notice any difference in the taste of the organically grown speed queen and the AN grown speed queen bud,

i even had some of the organic speed queen to compare it too, the only difference in the 2 were the actuall undertones of color, and the amount of trichomes

the organic SQ bud had the nice colorful tones to it, and the AN grown speed queen was more or less less colorfull, but a brighter green.

as far as taste goes i didnt think that there was a difference at all, but others said the organic one tasted better and more complex and some said the exact opposite, saying that about the AN grown speed queen. (i didnt tell any one which one was which or even tell them that they were the same starin, as far as they were concerned the pot they were comparing was 2 totally different strains)

now i know for a fact that if i told those i asked to judge the 2 samples, which ones was 100% organically grown and which one was "hydro fertillized", that certain people who judged it , would have totally differnt opinions of what ws the better one, just becasue of their "programming"

when it came down to it, out of the 13 people i had smoked out, no ne really could positivly tell me what one was better, i got a lot of compliments on it and when i told them what i was actually doing (this test panel consited of me and my cousin and his closest friend along with mine firends), they told me that they were both wonderfull tasting but the organic one was tastier. so as soon as i let the cat out of the bag, some who liked the AN grown bud intantly turned on it and modified their opinoins of the samples tested.

just goes to show you when either method is done PROPERLY, that is organic growing and non organic growing, on the same strain, that the results are soley dependant on the genetics. which is something all of us learned about early on in our growing carreer's from books and such. "always buy quality seeds, becasue thats what seperates the good bud fromt he shitty bud"

i did forget to mention that the AN grown buds were drastically more potent,and frosty looking.

i like organic growing and refined nute growing equally, but i find it easier to just use nutes from the bottle, than to build a soil mixture for early growth, vegative growth, and flowering.

AN does all the research for us, and on cannabis plants, so we dont have to. dont get me wrong i really despise AN's marketing tactics, all the hype and such and it could possibly make the newb grower think that he has to use AN or his plants wont grow, which is not the case. as ling as you give the plants what they want when they want it they will perform to thier full genetic pottential regardless of organic fertilizers or sythetic fertilizers.

my $.02

GreenDragon2k

take it easy fellas. Debates are ok but we can have a friendly discussion without flaming each other eh?

Lets try to keep to the topic at hand; Advanced nutrients connoisseur

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indicapro

definately, very friendly indeed. i grow for fun and actually anymore i enjoy growing the stuff more than smoking it.lol so i never get frustrated or mad with other peoples methods or growing styles. its always fun for me

yes the topic, Connoisseur, aerodonus what were the aamounts per gallon of water that you used with conny and list all the additives you used with it. please cuz i just ordered some of it and like i said i dont want to have to "relearn" another nute, and go through a learning curve with it.

i guess im asking the same thing you are asking, but ive never used it and you have so please fill me in on how YOU used it.

thanks aerodonus.