inraged

I grow my white widow in 3.5 gal containers under 600 watt HPS. I use foxfarm ocean forest. I use foxfarm nutes grow big, big bloom, and tiger bloom. I have only been using 1/2 nute strength for my last grow and it went well with 8 oz from 3 plants. the reason I went with 1/2 was due to a mathematical error. I water them with about 45 oz of water every other time. I use nutes the other times. is that to much nute and water solution if I bump it up to the recommended amounts? does it even matter? I could water them with 80 oz of water or nute solution but im sure it would just run out of them bottom. will that much more cause nute burn?

gqmetalhead

i use the same three fox farm nutes and i burned my plants everytime i tried to go above 1/2, those are really made for outdoor watering wich requires more. I would start at 1/2 and work my way up a little as the plant got bigger, and by bigger i mean above 2 feet, i LST my plants and dont let the get past 2 feet, at 18 inches more that 1/2 was still giving me leaf curl.

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inraged--I do use FFOF soil, but not their nutes. I have used GH, Earth Juice, Ionic, Millenium, B'cuzz, House and Garden, for using the complete line, and almost always I can get up to the bottle recommendations, and that's where my plants grow the best, some even over the bottle recommendations. I've only grown one strain that wouldn't take the bottle requirements without a bad burning. If you are worried about over nuting, which most are, next batch go 3/4ths strength, watch the very tips of the leafs for turning brown, and the first sign of that, run a gallon of clear water thru, and you'll know where you want to be around. I'd imagine unless there is something different with their bottle recommendations or something, that you could go full strength, or very close to it. There are plenty of people on here using those exact nutes and hopefully they will speak up with their experiences on amounts they use.

gqmetalhead--The leaf curl makes me believe there was either a ph issue, or some deficiency going on. I do happen to be one of the people that would burn thier plants from going over bottle recommendations, and don't get leaf curl from over nuting. Leaf burning, yes. And I don't have much outside growing experience, but I'm saying just the opposite way and indoors require more nutes. My mom has an outsdie plant that hasn't gotten any nutes at all, and looks marvelous. I could never do that inside. Now the bigger outdoor plants could, but if I was growing a plant that big indoors, I'd bet I'd still need more than outdoors. IMO of course too.

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inraged

Should i worry about the amount i water them with the nute solution? 45 oz vs 80 oz of water when i have the solution mixed up? will the extra just run out and not burn them even at 1/2 strength?

alleycat

inraged--Yeah most definately, you are worried about the ppm's (part per millions) of the nutrients in the water, if you just add more nutrients to less water, you will burn the plants. What ever the bottle recommends, they say for what amount of water, either liters, or gallons. If you are giving 1/2 strength, but to not their water amounts, you aren't 1/2 strength. Well if under their water recommendations, if over their recommendations, you'll be even under the 1/2 strength. Yeah if it's 1 teaspoon per gallon, you have to figure it out if you want to give only 1/2 gallon of water, then it's 1/2 teaspoon of nutes. Ok just figured out what an oz is vs gallon of water. You are only giving it just over a quart of water for a 3.5 gallon container then. I'd say go up 128 oz of water, one gallon, and then go with close to the bottle recommended nutes on it. I grow in 3 gallon grow bags, and you need one gallon of water to get enough runoff to know the whole bag was watered. That isn't enough water for a plant in that sized container, unless it was transplanted up to it well before it should of been. IMHO Hope that helps you out. Got any pictures of this plant?? That would help alot.

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KRAIN

I use all Fox Farm products full strength per there schedule online.
You MUST check your nuted water tiger bloom is extremely acidic. This sounds like your problem.
I start with water around 7.0 after nutes its about 5.0 or lower.I add ph up until i reach 6.8 or so.


http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf

gqmetalhead

there was no ph issue, i ph balanced my water evrytime, before and after adding nutes, if anything the ph level was so good that the plant was absorbing nutes as efficiently as possible. Leaf curls, and when i say that i mean when the tips curl under, is from overferting, and commonly known and talked about on GC, wich baffles me since you are a moderator, secondly on every jar of peters all purpose fertalizer it has amounts to use for indoor and outdoor, and its always more for outdoor, like double. I'm not sure if thats becasue they think that since outdoor plants sit in the sun all day that they might use more nutes compared to housplants that arent usually in direct sunlight or what, my guess is that the water spreads more, leaving less nutes the plant will actually reacieve, and when it rains, it would wash alot of the nutes away. It is entirley possible for plants do do very well outdoors without nutes, depending on how fetile the soil it and what type of nutes requirments certian plants have. But just about everyone who has a flower or vegtable garden uses them.

inraged: just use what works best for you, no need to use more water, just use less nutes, it would be a waste to do it the other way around, just start at 1/2 and them work your way up slowly, if after you water with nutes and see that the tips of your leaves have started to point or curl down, then you've used to much, the leaf curl will hurt your plant very little if at all. Fox Farms is strong shit, ask anyone that uses it and alot of them will tell you only use 1/2 stregth. I'm glad it's like that, it saves me money, FF isn't really that cheap.

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