JustJointGirl

I use clear ph'd water in between every 2 feedings, and I do this every other day.(feed-feed-water) Haven't seen any issues yet & my girls are always ready for a drink.

analog

oops. wrong section my bad.

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Luke Highwalker

now we know whats on yuor mind

my girls seem to drink about a liter a day as well. not sure how much the bucket holds... its hard to judge and it always seems to hold more than it looks like it should.

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Info continued here.

https://www.gardenscure.com/420/plan...ml#post1219964

I don't know why you think grow if important? If you look at the ratio's it should be plenty of nutes for a veg plant. People have been using it for a long time, it has been proven.

thisbudzforyou

I think "grow" is important because its what I have used for a few years and have always had good results. I would never go off some generic nutrient schedule. I give my plants what they want when they look like they want it. But like i have said, thats just what I do and everyone does different shit. But as for just going off some random schedule, thats just not my cup of tea.

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thisbudzforyou

For this plant, it wants 2.5 ml/gal Micro, 5 ml Grow, 2.5 ml Bloom. Also I throw in 10 ml of Hygrozyme for fun. Looks like its doing decent to me, and I can't even imagine giving it the "Lucus" formula. Once again, my experience is what I am speaking of. Everyone else has different results.

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HempyFTW

Lucas formula is far from random.



Grown only with the Lucas formula. (Not my plant)

Looks happy to me.

This is what you are giving you plant. Assuming you added 2.5 ml micro 5 ml grow 2.5 ml bloom to one gallon of distilled water.

Element Symbol Fertilizer
ppm
Nitrate N NO3 63.8
Ammonium N NH4 6.1
Urea N NH2 0.0

Nitrogen N Total 69.9
Phosphorus P 23.0
Potassium K 105.1
Magnesium Mg 18.7
Sulfur S 7.6
Calcium Ca 40.5
Iron Fe 0.81038
Boron B 0.00000
Manganese Mn 0.40519
Zinc Zn 0.00000
Molybdenum Mo 0.00648
Sodium Na 0.00000
Copper Cu 0.00000
Chlorine Cl 0.00000
Cobalt Co 0.00405
Silicon Si 0.00000
Selenium Se 0.00000

Active Elements 266
Estimated TDS@.7 593
Estimated TDS@.5 424
Estimated EC/mS 0.85
Estimated EC/uS 847

This is what I'm giving my plant at 5 ml mirco 10 ml bloom to one gallon of water.

ppm
Nitrate N NO3 76.2
Ammonium N NH4 4.9
Urea N NH2 0.0

Nitrogen N Total 81.0
Phosphorus P 66.2
Potassium K 114.2
Magnesium Mg 45.5
Sulfur S 30.4
Calcium Ca 81.0
Iron Fe 1.62076
Boron B 0.00000
Manganese Mn 0.81038
Zinc Zn 0.00000
Molybdenum Mo 0.01297
Sodium Na 0.00000
Copper Cu 0.00000
Chlorine Cl 0.00000
Cobalt Co 0.00810
Silicon Si 0.00000
Selenium Se 0.00000

Active Elements 421
Estimated TDS@.7 834
Estimated TDS@.5 596
Estimated EC/mS 1.19
Estimated EC/uS 1191


Mine is essentially just more of everything than yours. The ratios are fairly similar I have a lot more phosphorus for sure but meh..... If you research the lucas formula it is a tried and true nutrient regimen.

Don't get the wrong impression of my posts. I appreciate your input and if this formula is what the problem is I will be very happy that you brought it to my attention. However they grew for a month or more perfectly on this formula and only now are showing issues. I changed a bunch of things recently as stated and I beleive one of those to be the problems rather than the nutrients. If you have any reason to suspect my nutrients incorrect by all means let me know why, I would gladly change my ratios accordingly if you have any suggestions on why my nutrient ratios are inadequate. Or why they wouldn't work in a hempy.


Thanks again for you input I really appreciate it.

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thisbudzforyou

The Lucus formula may work just fine. I hope it does, and it appears to for others. It may even be close to the same as what I use. But you had pics of the leaf curl, which is usually because of to much P, or it has been for me at least. I can only say what works for me. Also, I wasn't calling it a "random" schedule just because you found it off some site or whatever. I would call any preset schedule "random". Even for plants I grow, I wouldn't use the same "random" formula that I did with the last, I would "customize" it for their needs. I have seen the Lucus formula on here many times, I just can't do a "set-in-stone" nute schedule. I can't stress enough, I only do what works for me, can't say how stuff works for other people... Good luck, I hope your problem is solved soon.

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Phosphorus (P) Toxicity:
This condition is rare and usually buffered by pH limitations. Excess phosphorus can interfere with the availability and stability of copper and zinc.

Copper Deficiency:
Symptoms of deficiency are a reduced or stunted growth with a distortion of the younger leaves and growth tip die-back. Young leaves often become dark green and twisted. They may die back or just exhibit necrotic spots. Growth and yield will be deficient as well.


Zinc Deficiencies:
Deficiencies appear as chlorosis in the inter-veinal areas of new leaves producing a banding appearance as seen in figure 18. This may be accompany reduction of leaf size and a shortening between internodes. Leaf margins are often distorted or wrinkled. Branch terminals of fruit will die back in severe cases.
Also gets locked out due to high pH. Zn, Fe, and Mn deficiencies often occur together, and are usually from a high pH. Don't overdo the micro-nutrients, lower the pH if that's the problem so the nutrients become available. Foliar feed if the plant looks real bad. Use chelated zinc. Zinc deficiency produces "little leaf" in many species, especially woody ones; the younger leaves are distinctly smaller than normal. Zinc defeciency may also produce "rosetting"; the stem fails to elongate behind the growing tip, so that the terminal leaves become tightly bunched.

Well if I do have Excess P then I can see the Zinc deficiency by the chlorosis of the youngest developing leaves. However I do not see any sign of copper deficiency as far as I know.....

Since this is turning into more of a nursery thing we should probably keep this discussion here.

I could possibly see that there might be too much P causing the zinc deficiency however I have been advised by analog not to flush. Not sure what to do lol.

Thanks again.

mayan

analog...just to clarify (and to budge a bit off topic) - I wasn't sure whether you meant "water every other day" (as in water) or "water every other day" (as in feed with nutes, as per Ripcord's beloved thread.) Thanks. I now return this thread to its normally scheduled broadcast. I ask because I've been nuting about every three days and my plants, so far, don't look the worst for the wear but a part of me wonders whether this is too much. They are in the early rush of flowering (22 or so days out from 12/12).

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