bloomstrike

Soil Grower:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones? seed 3 different types 4 plants
2. How old are your plants? 49 days
3. How tall are your plants? 1 at 2 feet, 1 at 3 1/2 feet,2 at 4 feet
4. What size containers are they planted in? 11 litre
5. What is your soil mix? Biobizz all
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use? 2-3 times a week, tap water that has been left for a few days
7. What is the pH of your water? 6.8 (using ph down)
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? Bio-Grow 8.0-2.0-6.0, bio-bloom 2.0-6.0-3.5, topmax (no NPK mentioned just bloom stimulator)
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? 1/4 teaspoon of magnesium sulphate to 2lts of ph`d water
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") one 250w hps, one 250w mh
11. How close are your lights to the plants? guessing about 7 inches from hps two other plants about 2 feet
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? W 5ft x D 4ft x H 5ft
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space? 72 F RH 31% average
14. What is the pH of the soil? spot on 7
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? none
16. How much experience do you have growing? first grow

As you can see above my girls are 49 days old, third week of flowering today and looking not too bad but, i noticed the bottom leaves are a very pale yellow while some in the middle are very very green, some mid and upper leaves have pale yellow tips aswell.I know i over done it a few weeks ago with the feeding and believe they got too much N and were like a holly green colour, i flushed them and they seem ok now.
I have had a lot of trouble with leaves twisting and so called praying leaves, i was made to believe this was a mg def and was foliar feeding with epsom salts to help correct it.
My water starts off at 213ppm, apparently thats very hard water with a lot of cal in it ? i was told it could or would lock out the mg and lead to the leaves curling up the way and look like they were praying.
The main question i think i need answered is am i feeding my girls enough ? i use 1ml - 1lt of bio-grow, 2ml - 1lt of bio-bloom and 1ml - 1lt of topmax bloom stimulator, i mix this feed two litres at a time and after testing it comes out at 860ppm/EC1.7 (using .5 conversion).
I`m sorry for bouncing all over the place but hopefully there`s enough information there to give me some advice, i just worry when i notice faint yellow blotches on the leaves, or curling/twisting leaves, i checked the soil ph and its 7 sometimes a little lower.
Now that they have started to flower will the bio-bloom at a NPK of 2.0-6.0-3.5 be enough ? i know the topmax has small amounts of fe,mn,zn,b and cu and is called a bloom stimulator ! hope the info helps, i just would`nt want a def at this time.
Thanks in advance

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Silentsmoke

Pics?

SupraSPL

I am not very familiar with bio bizz, but I can recall wondering to myself why their concentrations seemed so low despite the high price. You mention different numbers in your post than what I see on the products:
Bio-Grow (2.8-0.2-6.6)
Bio-Bloom (1.1-2.5-2)

Discount Hydroponics - Bio-Grow & Bio-Bloom

Are you using an older/newer version?

bloomstrike

Hi supra, i have noticed that myself on any post i have read about biobizz products but, i can assure you the numbers are bio-grow 8.0-2.0-6.0 and bio-bloom is 2.0-6.0-3.5 ! i have the bottles in front of me and thats the numbers mate.
As for the mixture figures like 1 to 5ml per litre is does seem to be a very light feed, as im sure you can see above when it comes to measuring the ppm/ec, im just not sure if i should add more and get the numbers up or maybe it just an organic thing ? .

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SupraSPL

Interesting, you must have a different version of some sort. The bio bizz stuff I saw at the hydro shop had the lower numbers and I was v skeptical depsite the shop owner's high opinion of the products.

If they had been the numbers you have, I probably would have given them a try

I have had success using 1tsp/gal (1ml/liter) of 12-6-6 liquid organic ferts for veg and 5 10 5 liquid organic ferts for bloom. Granted these plants were in pro-mix/FF ocean forest mix so thats probably not a fair experiment.

bloomstrike

Here`s a few pictures i took earlier, the problem is not as bad as it was ! i know someone is going to think that bugs have eaten at my plants but absolutely not they just sheared and turned out like you see.
my bottle of bio-grow with NPK










Please just comment on what you see, sorry i don`t know how to lay out the pictures better.