Luke Highwalker

i agree with that.

i have both GH and AN 3 part. the an seems to need a bit less in the mix to achieve the same ppm as gh.

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If is a big word...that's why we buy those expensive nutes It's all part of the game

Show me a side-by-side of AN vs. FF grow. Show me the differences.

Advanced Nutrients 2 Part Soil & Hydro Advanced Package
Includes:

* 1 Sensi Grow A - 1 Liter
* 1 Sensi Grow B - 1 Liter
* 1 Sensi Bloom A - 1 Liter
* 1 Sensi Bloom B - 1 Liter
* 1 Mother Earth Tea Grow - 1 Liter
* 1 Mother Earth Tea Bloom - 1 Liter
* 1 Grandma Enggy's Humic Acid - 1 Liter
* 1 Grandma Enggy's Fulvic Acid - 1 Liter
* 2 B-52 - 1 Liter
* 1 Barricade - 4 oz
* 2 Carboload Liquid - 1 Liter
* 1 Sensizym - 4 Liter
* 1 Piranha - 130 Gram
* 1 Tarantula - 130 Gram
* 1 Voodoo Juice - 1 Liter
* 1 Bud Blood - 40 Gram
* 1 Big Bud Powder - 130 Gram
* 1 Overdrive - 1 Liter
* 1 Final Phase - 1 Liter

$572.23

Why the fuck do you need all that???

OH YEAH THIS IS WHY:
For the grower who is looking for the ultimate nutrient package, graduate to a more complete regimen. Sensi two-part fertilizer contains perfect ratios and types of nutrients that powerhouse your plants through the entire grow. A complete nutrient package for the best harvest possible! Explore the possibilities!
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Look, they're telling you you'll have the best harvest possible. Better go buy it

I guess it boils down to their marketing scheme. It's just like the tobacco companies who sell flavored cigs to kids. It's just too tempting

Alas, I admit I'm waaay off topic, sorry ppl





I've seen amazing things with MG nutes. You just need to know how to use them. There are growers on here that have great results with it.

Also, FWIW, i believe that AN appeals more to the newb growers (I'm not saying anyone who uses AN is a newb) that believe all the hype in AN's marketing strategy. Bigger yields? More trich production??? Fuck yeah, I want me some!!! Get to know your plants wants/needs. Get your environment in check. PH, PPM, EC all good. temps, ect and the rest will fall into place. If your plants aren't happy. No nutes, even AN, can help you

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Luke Highwalker

lol burndt, dont make me link you to the old thread that has all this spelled out time and time again.

you dont NEED all that shit.

GH, botanicare, technaflora all those guys sell 100 additives that may or may not do anything.



the point is to be an EDUCATED CONSUMER.

know what you need, buy it. and buy nothing else.

you cannot fault AN for trying to sell as many products as possible and making as much money as possible.

ADVANCED NUTRIENTS IS A FOR PROFIT BUSINESS!!! it is not a church or school, it is not unicef. they actually need to make money to pay employees and line there pockets.

if you dont like what they offer, the best form of protest is not to buy it.

however, if you are smarter than the average bear with some clever shopping and frugal selection you can end up with a bad ass nute regimen relatively cheaply. some products may be AN, some may not.

there are people {lucas} who are very well respected that argue ALL additives are pure b.s. others claim and swear by things like hygrozyme which is horribly expensive. yet i see no one bitch about that.

it all boils down to personal experience and growing style.

as we all know every strain has needs that are a little different. and many people have more money than common sense, or growing skill.

on that note its wise for AN to offer 15 similar but not the same products. sure they might be all bloom boosters, and sure they might have all teh same ingriedients. but the ratios of these ingredients may very well be different.

we cannot control what the plant wants, or what specific nutes we want to give them. as growers we can only control the dilution rate of what is in the bottle....dont take this the wrong way. yes we can absolutely buy each chemical/compound individually and taylor our own recipe..but we have again side stepped the calling of AN.

which seems to be growers who want pot, not a life long commitment to learning how to grow.

so for those people, trying one bottle for a while. just to dump it out and try another bottle for a while. well that may be the most practical solution for them.

its wrong for us to cast our own value of time and money upon someone else. for you it may be a waste to buy a 200 dollar bottle of nutes, for others it may be a complete waste of time and money doinking around on the net trying to sift through all the b.s. figuring what plants do and do not need. ive been at this nearly a decade and im still clueless to what im really paying for in a bottle of nutrients. for someone who's time is invaluable the premium price for a bottle of nutes is not even a consideration...as long as it does what they want it to do, no price would be too high.

if we choose to buy AN, get over it. they are but one company. and wether or not i actually agree with there flawed tactics i will always defend them. because the whole point of life is the freedom to do what YOU want, as long as no one else gets hurt in the process.

As time passes this site seems to be more and more biased. A few people have good results, and throngs of newbs regurgitate what they read as if it were the gospel handed down from the almighty himself. This is growing, there are no rules here. Be different, think for yourself.

If you always follow in others footsteps you are only guaranteeing one thing, That the view will never change.

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dave.b

Hi there and very happy to read replies
First of all, I really want to mean that I'm not saying THE TRUTH
I know I still have to learn a lot and I RESPECT every single opinion posted here.. burndt even if we have different approach to growing I really respect your opinion, we're here to discuss, learn and improve ourselves, we're here to share our experience and that's what we're gonna do

if you have read this post carefully you should know all the products I have bought from AN are only 5 (6 bottles if you consider the base sensi A+B nuts but they cost less that any 3 part on the market)

I'm very sorry, I cannot post any pics right now, but that's the reason why I'm so excited about AN produtcs, you can really see it
I have grown some previous cycles with Bcuzz products and, trust me, I can really see the difference. You don't need to bought ALL the scheduling to see THE DIFFERENCE.

another discussion could be that people really does not need to push growing to such a limit!!!!! I know ganja exist since god exist people smoked since people existed, so there's no doubt that this crazy Big Mike is just a f****ng freakin' genius of feeding with great marketing abilities too

But AN have made think so much about the importance of FEEDING and that's enough to know this bigguy really trusts its speaking, it seems that he really has a sort of a "mission" to do and no matter the rest
anyway I agree with that prices, other brands wars, instructional videos on a sub-site.... they could be fashioning, yeah but in the end it's all a kind of bulllshit, I know

FINALLY
I only trust what I can see with my own eys, what I can breathe with my own lungs
because I have seen the difference from a bland neutral feeding than a hard pushed one so now, I really want to do my best in it

thank you so much all of you guys for sharing knowledge anyone is welcomed here

dave.b

Luke I was so excited to reply at burndt's post, I have not read your posting, I can just quote a bit your words toreach the point
if it was not really clear before, I

Bobby_604

AN user right here.

Ive used it ALL!

I stick to Grow, Micro, Bloom, Big Bud, Barricade, Carboload and Overdrive. Unreal results.

Ive been thinking of adding in the Grandma Eggys Fulvic Acid also.

M_Jacobs

Happy AN user here.
AN Sensi Bloom 2 part
Big Bud
Overdrive
VHO



Week1-4 1000-1200 PPM
70% Hydrogen Peroxide
AN Sensi Bloom 2 Part
Big Bud

Week5-6 1200-1400 PPM
70% Hydrogen Peroxide
AN Sensi Bloom 2 Part
Overdrive

dave.b

than u bro Yes, these grandma prods shuld be useful.... Do you think the Fulvic is better than the Humic - acid? they're both on scheduling....

hi there
u have made me recall that once I have tried such a h2o2 stuff, some Ebb&Flood grows in the winter, but it didn't seems to work as good as someone claims. You said 70% of concentration? How much ml per liter? Today I've found that the product I have used once was only 17.5% Hydrogen Peroxide

more, I have read that h2o2 should be more useful when rez temps are raising up, above 72°F, as water ability to retain oxygen is lowering... what do u think about? which system are u running? sorry for too many questions, that' s interesting me

indicapro

if you want cheap deals on an products you gotta go to Discount AN - Your #1 source for Advanced Nutrients

my man there will hook you up in the most fabulous of ways ....freebies and such and great package deals

EMj

Cool link, never heard of them before. Although the prices are about the same as going into the hydro store. So add shipping and it's more. Cool link though, how long have they been in business?

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