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Old 07-14-2009, 11:32 AM   #31
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the only AN products I use is Jump Start for my clones and AN PH Up. The jump start works very nicely.
The PH Up is the strongest stuff I have ever encountered. Burns my hand when I spill it on myself. I use an eye dropper to add it to my nute mix. Needless to say, one bottle of this stuff will last years. Got it on sale for $12
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AN's website does kinda suck though......Very confusing under products section.......There are billion different additives. Which ones are for hydro, which ones are for soil? Maybe Im just lame.....
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:06 PM   #33
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Luke I was so excited to reply at burndt's post, I have not read your posting, I can just quote a bit your words toreach the point
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haha, thanks man. no problem. i can type as fast as i think which leads to horribly loquacious posts!
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:14 PM   #34
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Just bought 1L of Grandma Enggys Fulvic Acid.


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Cool link, never heard of them before. Although the prices are about the same as going into the hydro store. So add shipping and it's more. Cool link though, how long have they been in business?
I don't know, but their domain is registered since 2005...

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The PH Up is the strongest stuff I have ever encountered
Do u mean that just a small amount of AN Ph Up can quickly raise the PH?

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I must AN's website does suck though......Very confusing under products section.......There are billion different additives. Which ones are for hydro, which ones are for soil? Maybe Im just lame.....
You should use the nutrient calculator on this page. Choose your base nuts first, then select the Formula field, for knowing the amount of needed nutrients and when you need to use them........ you can also add some weeks to your scheduling, choose your res size, choose output values in oz/Gals or ml/liter....... clicking the little ? icons you can see the products labels....... it' pretty simple
stick with light feeding formula, you can't burn plants with it


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You are very welcomed to share your comments on this product as soon as you start using it
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u have made me recall that once I have tried such a h2o2 stuff, some Ebb&Flood grows in the winter, but it didn't seems to work as good as someone claims. You said 70% of concentration? How much ml per liter? Today I've found that the product I have used once was only 17.5% Hydrogen Peroxide

more, I have read that h2o2 should be more useful when rez temps are raising up, above 72°F, as water ability to retain oxygen is lowering... what do u think about? which system are u running? sorry for too many questions, that' s interesting me
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I just checked the label and website I got the H2O2 from and it doesn't actually tell you what % it is, so I might be wrong on the 70%. After carefully reading everything I think its more likely 30% concentration. Here is the link to the one I ordered online.. The instructions read 1 Teaspoon per 10gallons of water. I just remember it as .5ml for every 4L of water.

I'm currently running 4ft x 4ft ebb and flood system with 160L reservoirs. so I put in 20ml of peroxide every 7 days. I do a fresh mix of nutrients every 2 weeks. The peroxide definitely helps a lot. I can tell pretty quickly if I forget to put the peroxide because the reservoirs will start to stink very the next day. I disinfect all the reservoirs, trays, pumps, hoses every 2 weeks. I could probably setup a hepa filter, and follow cleaner procedures, but its too much work, and i'm lazy hahaha.

If you work with this stuff, I highly recommend wearing a apron, or old clothing. It can discolor clothing it splashes on. Also highly recommend wearing gloves. I've gotten chemical burns from the peroxide. Nothing major, just a strange burning sensation that gets worse and worse if left un-treated hahaha.
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Ok I get it now, that nutrient calculator is awesome.
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AN's website does kinda suck though......Very confusing under products section.......There are billion different additives. Which ones are for hydro, which ones are for soil? Maybe Im just lame.....
that's called marketing. With AN, you need to buy a whole lotta stuff, at least they make you think you need to buy a whole bunch of stuff
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there web site definately is not the best..lots of b.s. there.

i just use there basic 3 part, and a dry bloom booster plus liquid karma when in soil. karma is from botanicare though.

there ph up and down being strong is not how fast it acts {they are all instant} but how much it addjusts the ph per drop.

i have some generic ph up that is very weak..1ml = 1 drop of GH stuff. i imagine AN is the same way. just a drop is all you need. when i mix single gallons i just dip my dropper in the ph up or down and swirl it around in my nute water, i dont even suck any into the dropper.
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