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Old 07-24-2009, 12:51 PM   #1
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I've been pondering...

Ok so this damned BM which I believe is an excellent product for doing what it's said to do, reduces trichs quite noticeably.

By that I mean at least 75% on a strain I've grown out well over 18 times. I know that PurpMax is supposed to be the almighty resin producer when used in addition to BM and Gravity and anything else that a company can link with other products as a "necessity to have along with". I have yet to use the Purplemax after BM and even come close to the trich production when BM wasnt added in the first place.

I have side by sides of two different strains that I've grown together a number of times also. The non BM plants have the tight upwards curled leaves with trichs on top of trichs, thick sticky, the ones who received the BM are on day 46 with the trich production of I'd say day 18 if grown without it. Now the buds are still on day 46, baseball sized stacked tops just trichless.

So I ask, wouldn't this tremendous reduction (visually) of up to 75% of the trichs severely reduce the potency? No matter what you used to bring em back?

I would like for this not to go the additive hype direction, BM has a different type of use by stopping growth which can be a cropsaver in some situations, especially large operations where lst or tie ups just arent feasible. I just want to know that when I start thinking about using BM, I might be juggling controlled plant height vs a trichless less potent harvest. Not to mention the extra money spent for the miracle return of the resin christ.

I would like to hear everybody's ideas on this...

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Old 07-27-2009, 02:46 PM   #2
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Tossin this one back in to see if anyone had any ideas...

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Old 08-10-2009, 02:53 PM   #3
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I actually dont have much experance with bushmaster, used it once and on a first grow.
i have another batch of clones from the same plant in there right now, but you do bring up a interesting point, my AK had very little trichromes. i used bushmaster on all of them,
i dont think AK is known for an abundance of trichromes but it should not be a dog.
because of this post im trying my best not to use the stuff, i think i read elsewhere they noticed lesser buds as well.

i may just stick to training, hopefully someone else can chime in, but i belive you are correct.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:20 PM   #4
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Dang this is some interesting stuff. I wonder if the same can be true about other nutes/additives that are high in Phosphorus.

Not try'n to get off subject here..I just like to try an duplicate results of expensive products by go'n with other possibilities.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:46 PM   #5
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i dont if it was bluecheese or Pesci but somebody did a side-by-side of DJ's blueberry clones with BM and without. the one with bushmaster was shorter and actually had more yeild. the one without was tall and lanky. i dont remember much about what was said about trich production but i think it was reduced a bit.

dont know if this helps but i thought it was interesting that yeild increased after using bushmaster.
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Old 08-10-2009, 05:07 PM   #6
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I have used bushmaster, PM, and gravity all together with great results. I even gave my momma's a small bushmaster feeding which is turning them into some fine little bushes, and they are still pumping out clones just fine. Was this your first time using BM? Did you give it to your plants in one big dose or did you space it out and had multiple small feedings? I do the multiple small feedings (1/4 tsp per gal.) I feed that to them a week before they go into flower and twice more once in flower.

On another note, maybe if you use a UVB light it might help with your trich production. I used PM in conjunction with a uvb light and had awesome results. Heres a link incase you ask why UVB UVB Thread

I can see why BM could've aided in the higher yield, since the plant would stay shorter/bushier, thus creating more room for the light and its penetrating capabilities to reach down further and hit more surface area at the same time. Almost the way a scrog works.

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now that i read this thread, i too have noticed reduced trichj production with BM. i always get big dense buds but the trichs are small and almost non existent... i am growing this round with no additives to see what happens this round... i beleive my plants to be sativa dom, so im hoping to see alot of trich production... PEACE
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i used bm once, it worked "right now." but i didn't use the suggested dose. i was told a little goes a very long way. i think i used 1-2 ml. per gallon. i also read somewhere (can't remember where) that these products adhere to the medium. i threw that coco out...
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my plants to be sativa dom, so im hoping to see alot of trich production... PEACE
I always thought indica's were known more for producing massive amounts of trich's, not sativas
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I am a big fan of the bushmaster having a 5 ft cab, I use it every grow I really haven't noticed the trich thing I wonder if certain strains are more sensitive then others, Though I started using Snow Storm Ultra another one of there products and the trichs are piling up!! Only 5 weeks along right now and only been using the stuff for about 2 weeks, hope this helps.
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