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Old 08-06-2009, 12:08 PM   #11
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Of the two fertz u listed I would go with the MG Bloom Booster.

There is a video from Mike at advanced nutrients who did a lab test on what Cannabis actually needs in the NPK ratios. If you look at the video and the PDF file attached Cannabis does not need high P levels. It actually uses alot less P then any of the 3. From my understanding you want a high P for the 1st week or so of flowering to initiate bud sites and then after the 1st week or so you go higher in the K.

Link to video.

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Old 08-06-2009, 10:08 PM   #12
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Mike reminds me of a crack head.

If I give my plants more N than P durring flowering I get leafy buds and you can tell the plant just has to much nitrogen in it.

Even with organics. Microbes in the soil use high amounts of N in organic growing. Giving more N than P and K just results in leafy harsh buds. Not really even buds to be honest. Airy as can be. lol
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Old 08-07-2009, 05:44 AM   #13
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If I give my plants more N than P durring flowering I get leafy buds and you can tell the plant just has to much nitrogen in it.

Even with organics. Microbes in the soil use high amounts of N in organic growing. Giving more N than P and K just results in leafy harsh buds. Not really even buds to be honest. Airy as can be. lol


thats been my experience with higher % of N fertilizers also. fluffer buds and not to mention it wasnt as smooth to smoke. last grow I continued with a fert that has 0 n for the final weeks and they were some of the fattest buds Ive grown so far. potency was up there too. this is with a strain Ive become familiar with.
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Id chuck the good old bs flag up on that and say that dude has prolly been hittin the crack. or too much P in his diet. but thats just my opinion of course. the thing that gets me is that AN is always looking to promote some secret mysterious edge. Ive used their stuff a few times also. the only mysterious edge I see with there product is bloated cost. growtek is made out on the coast too and its half the cost and less hype and it works wicked. same with B.C. I hope some of the old school growers in here speak up about that nonsense
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Didn't want to turn this into a "which nute" is better thread. I was just throwing out a theory that seems to have merit.

Not sure if you took a look at the pdf file. I have my doubts about how much better AN products really are compared to other nutes BUT.

In the PDF file you will see actual lab results of Cannabis plants. It might be just me but I give that some serious creditability.

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Question for you. Can you share what nutes you used during flowering that had a higher N to P, K ratio? I'm curious what the ratios were for the other two elements. I took a quick look at some Flowering BASE nutes and they all have lower N ratio compared the other elements.
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Question for you. Can you share what nutes you used during flowering that had a higher N to P, K ratio? I'm curious what the ratios were for the other two elements. I took a quick look at some Flowering BASE nutes and they all have lower N ratio compared the other elements.
It wasnt a flower based nutrient. It was durring an outdoor grow one year. I gave it basically an even npk or slighty higher in N all year. Just different mixes of some guanos, kelp, peace of mind products...

But the thing was they still got more N than P. And my result was buds I didnt even want to smoke.
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The person who taught me the basics of growing told me you don't even need the veg nutes. He just strictly used BC's base and flower nutes. Sometimes he would supplement with extra cal/mag but that was it. He always had some dank buds, and I never saw any type of deffiencacy .
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