newcarcaviar

Hi guys, I'm back to ask for your guidance once again! Although I'm willing to bet nobody remembers me because I only posted a few times and I'm sure I was just another "First grow" poster around here...

Anyway, here's my deal. I started out with 6-7 sprouts and of those, 3 survived. They've started flowering (it's an outdoor grow by the way) and as it stands, 1 is male, 1 is female, and 1 is on the brink of death, but I'm hoping I can pull it through. I have them in pots and the one toppled over and I guess it had been that way for several days before I noticed and uprighted it. It's scrawny and droopy right now, but I'm hoping with some fresh water and sunlight it will make it. But I digress.

See, since flowering has started, I was going to start adding nutes, but I'm worried that I'll overload the plants. I started the sprouts in small peat containers with Miracle Grow All Purpose soil (0.15-0.05-0.10). It says that it contains time-release nutrients for up to 3 months.

Once the plants got bigger I planted them in the pots they're in now using the same Miracle Grow soil. This was approximately 1.5 to 2 months ago. So this means that there are still some time-release nutes in the soil still doing their thing. And I'm worried that if I add some of the other nutes I bought, the plants will be getting too much.

I have:

-Miracle Grow All Purpose Plant Food (24-8-16) "with micronutrients", if that's important
-C-I-L Blood Meal (12-0-0)

Do you think it would be safe to add these now or should I wait another few weeks? Thanks, folks!

johnny-0

Bloodmeal is for veg.,I would not use this in flower.Miricle grow contains no magnesium and you will end up with a deficiency(spots on your leaves) if you dont add cal-mag. to your nutes.Find a fert.that has a high P,K and a low N for flower.

sparkyspokes

Noob here, but I'm learning that for flowering you want a fert with little to no N (N is good for plant growth, but will slow flower/bud production). Your plants likely already have a good storage of N. A 'flowering' fert would be something like 1-4-7 or even 0-10-10. If you see other pics of buds nearly finished you will notice most large fan leaves yellowing from lack of N...that's normal.

I'd start with only half of the recommended fert dosage listed on the product and then simply stay with that unless the plants show deficiencies. ...bette safe than sorry.

sparky

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You could always go with Pure Blend Pro Bloom(1.5,4,5)(Soil Formula.) That's organic and its really tough to burn using organics. They are more forgiving when it comes to adding too much. My

stoney-trees

Honestly, both those nutrients are a bad choice to use durring flowering.

One contains nothing but nitrogen, and the other contains more nitrogen than anything.

Yes, micro nutrients are very important. Not as important if your plant was in the ground, but its in pots. I never understood why outdoor growers planted in pots....

The time release will most likely not last three months. And miracle grows time realease nutrients are about the worst thing you can use.

If ordering online or from a catalouge is an option you can have a much much better choice of things.

Even a near by hydro shop.

aligara

If you are going to consume your plant, I would never suggest using miracle grow. It uses EDTA's for chelation. EDTA's have been known to help form carcinogens. carcinogens give you cancer. There are many high quality soils you can use instead that you should be able to find at your local hydro shop. As per nutrients, every plant is different, but during flowering stages, most plants can handle 1200PPM and up, so almost any nutrient line designed for soil if used at half strength will give you great results with no burn. For better results, use Ro (Reverse Osmosis) water. That will bring the PPM of hard water down to about 20, and give you a relatively blank slate to work with. The 3 things your primarily trying to avoid with nutrients is burn, salt and too high of EC. All of which can be avoided if you use a half strength nutrient line with something like drip clean. Hope this helps.

newcarcaviar

Wow, good info here, thanks guys.

Aligara, I have to say, I didn't know that about the Miracle Grow. Kind of freaky actually. Is it something that some flushing before harvesting could fix or is it something that develops in the plant as it's growing and now it's too late? Definitely something to keep in mind for future grows, if there are any.

The good news is that the one plant that was almost dead has made a recovery and it's a lovely lady! So I've got two females getting some nice buds happening now. I'll be sure to look out for some low - no nitrogen stuff so I can get that going soon.

Oh, and stoney, about the pots, I did it for ease of transport. I've moved them a few times since planting for security reasons/convenience/good ol' fashioned paranoia.