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Old 09-22-2009, 11:47 AM   #11
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I celebrate Fox Farm's entire catalog: soil, liquids, and solubles.......love em'...... oddly enough they all work extremely well together! Im also a fan of Gravity and Purple Maxx at end of flower as well.
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After upgrading my nute line...the Fox Farm's solubles I should have never tossed $60 at, became what I use to lower the plants feed's pH with. Yes, its true, I spent $60 on multi-colored pH down.

Cha-ching, imo, is redundant. The slight difference in micro-nutrients between Open Sesame & Cha-Ching is most likely made up for in your tap water. Should ya buy that 3pack, you'll find Cha-ching hardly being used by the time your plant is done. (means its size and cost are not justified) So, imo, if you desire your plants to have a few final shots of N before flush, stick with Open Sesame's 5...cuz Cha Ching's 9 is way too high. (especially considering that it's nasty ass ammoniacal nitrogen)

Their solubles and liquids are little more than chemical baths derived from refining petroleum. And due to that liberal use of petro-chemical salts...I find it hard to believe that their humics are actually sourced from leornardite, and find it far more likely its derived from coal. (even more likely since umpteen Californian nutrient manufactures were recently outed as using petro chemicals and not the organic ingredients they claimed)

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Old 09-22-2009, 03:08 PM   #13
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I remember always reading on overgrow forums back in the day that one of the solubles was pretty pointless. I cant remember wich though. lol So that doesnt help too much. If your questioning the need for it, then chances are its the same anyway.

I never used any of their solubles personally though.
Its the cha-ching...jus as slow the stone noted...I have heard this as well.

For my outdoor grows I stop any feeding of nutes a minimum of 3 weeks before harvest....sometimes 4....and just stick to the organics like guano and molasses....then flush well for the last week.
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The hydro store wanted $35 for 16 oz. I found some at the nursery for $24, so im good to go. I concur Kawliga about ending all feedings except mild organics and molasses 3-4 weeks prior to harvest. If the winds dont start up I should go tell the 3rd week in Oct.
Alot of growers have frost problems, in my region it's the winds. The last week has had weather at 102-103F with nights in the 70s. Im almost watering at the same rate I was in veg at these temps. The plants can also consume the nutes better at these high temps. Just a theory? I usually feed every third watering.
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Hey Swordfish, you ever seen this video: Growers Underground | hydroponics growers | hydroponic | how to » The Great Phosphorus Myth Exposed!

Get over the fact that this guy absolutely loves to talk and simply look at what the scientists have found out. They show much less P use during flowering compared to what is in Cha Ching. In fact the graphs show the exact opposite of Cha Ching's nutrient profile.
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After upgrading my nute line...the Fox Farm's solubles I should have never tossed $60 at, became what I use to lower the plants feed's pH with. Yes, its true, I spent $60 on multi-colored pH down.

Cha-ching, imo, is redundant. The slight difference in micro-nutrients between Open Sesame & Cha-Ching is most likely made up for in your tap water. Should ya buy that 3pack, you'll find Cha-ching hardly being used by the time your plant is done. (means its size and cost are not justified) So, imo, if you desire your plants to have a few final shots of N before flush, stick with Open Sesame's 5...cuz Cha Ching's 9 is way too high. (especially considering that it's nasty ass ammoniacal nitrogen)

Their solubles and liquids are little more than chemical baths derived from refining petroleum. And due to that liberal use of petro-chemical salts...I find it hard to believe that their humics are actually sourced from leornardite, and find it far more likely its derived from coal. (even more likely since umpteen Californian nutrient manufactures were recently outed as using petro chemicals and not the organic ingredients they claimed)


My mind has officially been blown....Speak english doc, we aint scientists! Hahah just kidding....But seriously it sounds like you know your stuff. Thanks for the 411.
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