Serenity

I just went down to admire my 5 beautiful bagseed girlies and i noticed one has seeds. Question 1: Will a hermie make all the girls have seeds? I looked and I think only one has seeds forming right now. Question 2: I dont think I put them through any stress at least not while they were flowering.. What would cause this. What should I do... I will be so sickened if my growroom is forever tainted with bagseed pollen .... Just did some further examination... I cant see any pollen sacks on the seeded plant or any other of the ones in the flowering. Veg room is right next door and I have two UPO's(unidentified plant objects) heh. they dont have pollen sacks on them either. Someone please give me some suggestions Also the plants with seeds has many sites still unaffected. will they be affected in the future? Also I was wondering If it was a Male in the veg room wouldnt all the girls have seeds. Im in my 5th week. not sure how long total veg time is probably 12 or more since its mexi.

JohnnyTruant

It's possible that all your girls will grow some seeds. A hermie'd plant will start to grow pollen sacks that look like small bananas. They may grow all over the plant or in just a few sections. When the sac bursts, the pollen does what male pollen does, it pollenates whatever pistils it attaches/sticks to. So, it's possible that ALL your ladies got some pollen just as much as it's possible that it was just isolated to one section on one plant. It's impossible to say whether all your girls will have seeds.

The hermaphrodism could have been caused by an unknown light leak or some other stress you don't know about. Also, the trait (hermaphroditism) could be caused by genetics, such as your seeds could have been from a hermie'd plant.

The fact is, it happened and hopefully it's not too widespread. Now your job is to find the "lady" that hermie'd and cull it, show no mercy. This is also a sign that you should be on heavy guard for more hermaphroditism occurring. Check every day or so on every part of every plant.
It's a tiring, ill-rewarding task, but it's key to sensimilla.

Truant

P.S. If all your ladies aren't ladies, continue with the grow and see what you get. Also, if you do a thorough search and find only a small amount of pollen sacks, you might decide to just pull them out (very carefully not to burst them) and keep doing this every few days. You'll still end up missing one or two, but maybe it stays unbalanced in your favor. Of course, it's all up to your discretion. Good luck.

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JohnnyTruant

...i'm wondering: do you mean that your ladies are in their 5th week of Flowering, not veg?

The seeded plant will remain unaffected by seed at other bud sites as long as the pistils don't get pollenated. Pollen sticking to the pistils is the key to fertilzation. The whole plant might be affected in the sense that now that parts have been fertilized, the plant might focus more energy on seed development, which would take away from the available energy for bud growth. This would cause less quantity and quality of bud (probably not significantly in your case) and will lengthen flowering time somewhat.

Truant

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Well, you can't have that, but if you're an American citizen you are entitled to: A heated kidney-shaped pool,a microwave oven--don't watch the food cook, a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi, a year's supply of antibiotics, a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth and Bob Dylan's new unlisted phone number, a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick, Rosemary's baby, a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams, a new Matador, a new mastadon, a Maverick, a Mustang, a Montego, a Merc Montclair, a Mark IV, a meteor, a Mercedes, a Mort Moriarty, a Maserati, a Mac truck, a Mazda, a new Monza, or a moped, a Las Vegas wedding, a Mexican divorce, a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot, or a baby's arm holding an apple?

Serenity

yeah im in my fifth week of flowering. My veg room is right next to my flowering room. Only thing that separates the two is 20 mil of plastic. when i made the room it was so dark i couldnt see my hand no matter how close. i havent checked it lately tho. for my life i cant find any sacks. wouldnt it most likely be on the hermied plant. also can temperature differences make a plant hermie. i open the door most nights to keep the temps down so they occasionally go through temp swings. maybe 10 to 15 degrees. i will go check so more . grrr by cull you mean kill right arggg
also i just checked the leaves with my high dollar radioshack microscope jk. leaves look cloudy and clear. not possible is it only 5 weeks into flowering. i really dont know where i got the seeds. im just guessing they are sativas. i really dont want to kill my plant. grrr. maybe i can break out my bubblehash bags. i dunno. this i s my first grow... im so dissappointed.

Serenity

ahhh i turned my lights on 45 minutes early a week or so ago. dumbass move.. i also have forgot to shut the door 2 times but they only went 10 minutes extra than the called for 12/12

Serenity

ok its been confirmed. the outbreak is contagious I just found one pod on another plant. so the question now is can it really hurt to finish out the grow. dammit who ever knew growing a weed could be so hard still havent found any males but i did see what looks like a seed pod coming right off the stem. it has a hair coming off of it tho. could that be the pollen sack

JohnnyTruant

I don't think turning the lights on early once or keeping them on a few minutes late a couple times would cause the hermiphication. Usually it's something like the light being on in the middle of the "night" that would cause light poisoning. And since the temperature in nature usually changes by 10-15 from day to night (or more in places) during MJ's life, i don't think that would cause the stress. You might want to double check the boundary you have between veg and flowering rooms. Even if it is still doing the trick, it's a good maintenance thing to do.

And after rereading and seeing that it was some mexi-brick weed, I'd say there's a large possibility that it was caused by crappy genetics. Not all mexi brick comes from bad genetics, but much of it does. It also gets all sorts of f#cked with through the bricking process and all the other crap that goes on to smuggle it into the States; these processes can definitely leave the seeds afffected.

And yes, most likely the hermie'd plant seeded itself, and if there are any plants in the vicinity (as in practically touching) of the seeded area they probably got a little pollenated. If you had a fan blowing during this part of the grow, that could also have blown some pollen to others parts of the room, thus pollenating other areas. This can also happen through contact (that's right, you could have unknowingly spread it). This is all a part of the drama of unexpected and unwanted hermies.

Unfortunately, yes that is what I mean. Sorry to tell you that, but hey, you got some bubblebags, and there's always saving for cooking.

Serenity: Do NOT be disappointed. Think of all the good things you have already done in your grow, and all that you can still do with the current situation. You still have a GREAT chance at having some of the best buds you've ever smoked. And believe me, the knowledge that you grew it is SOOO rewarding (and makes the high better ). Never give up because the best is yet to come.

Truant

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Well, you can't have that, but if you're an American citizen you are entitled to: A heated kidney-shaped pool,a microwave oven--don't watch the food cook, a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi, a year's supply of antibiotics, a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth and Bob Dylan's new unlisted phone number, a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick, Rosemary's baby, a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams, a new Matador, a new mastadon, a Maverick, a Mustang, a Montego, a Merc Montclair, a Mark IV, a meteor, a Mercedes, a Mort Moriarty, a Maserati, a Mac truck, a Mazda, a new Monza, or a moped, a Las Vegas wedding, a Mexican divorce, a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot, or a baby's arm holding an apple?

Serenity

so once a plant hermies it will keep producing male sacks and continue to seed my girls right. i will kill the plant tomorrow. im tired and have to get up in 5 hours. one more thing can i scrub the flowering room down with bleach or something to get rid of unwanted pollen. i have store bought genetics growing and within 2 months or so will be ready to flower. K2,WW,Widxskunk, and shiva shanti 2. this was just a test run. i have been reading how to grow for 2 years yet only 5 weeks into flowering on first grow. haha

JohnnyTruant

RIGHT ON!!!!! It's great to have a lot of preliminary knowledge before growing. Of course, reading about growing and growing are two very different things-- Something I learned the first time around, and continue to learn practically every day

Definitely wipe down all your walls with a bleach solvent. If you have any pests, there are also things called Bug Bombs (something like that) that will get rid of all pests, larvae, eggs, etc.

And you will thank yourself for this test grow, especially any negatives that happened and that you overcame. Consider this a HUGE learning situation. Believe me, the problems that have come up in this grow will help you way more than the successes.

Truant

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Well, you can't have that, but if you're an American citizen you are entitled to: A heated kidney-shaped pool,a microwave oven--don't watch the food cook, a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi, a year's supply of antibiotics, a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth and Bob Dylan's new unlisted phone number, a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick, Rosemary's baby, a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams, a new Matador, a new mastadon, a Maverick, a Mustang, a Montego, a Merc Montclair, a Mark IV, a meteor, a Mercedes, a Mort Moriarty, a Maserati, a Mac truck, a Mazda, a new Monza, or a moped, a Las Vegas wedding, a Mexican divorce, a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot, or a baby's arm holding an apple?