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Old 03-22-2007, 10:26 PM   #1
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I had no idea what it takes to get a good picture of a diseased leaf, until today. 20 or 30 pictures later, I believe I have one that shows what's going on.

This is not a pot leaf. It's only showing up on the bottom's of the leafs then they die. My friend treated her plants with nicotine in a spray bottle, which killed all her plants. But not the problems she was having with her outdoor garden. She has the plants in a bird cage rigged as a green house and now it's attacking her plants. Any ideas on what it is and cure would be greatly appreciated. I don't grow in soil so I have no idea's. I will say that I'm having the same troubles in hydro with the same genetics. Could it be genetics related?

The best I could recommend to her was to get fox farms (Ocean?) soil mix and start growing in this. She just informed me there was a sewage leak in our local water supply and it drifted into our water, could this be causing it?

Thanks for your helps.

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Old 03-23-2007, 06:49 AM   #2
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Old 03-23-2007, 01:10 PM   #3
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I would try Spectracide spray.It looks like either a rust or black spot disease.
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"Blotch is similar to Anthracnose, but spots are smaller and the disease doesn't spread to the stem. REMEDY: Destroy affected foliage and severely affected plants. PREVENTION: Use only sterile growing medium."

Sounds like that sewage isn't very good for your plant. I bet it isn't very good for you either. I'd buy a bunch of drinking water from the store.

Heres another picture of blotch on another leaf.



Also heres some more information. I think its on a specific type of blotch but should help non-the-less. Blotch

G/L, I hope this helps.
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i hope thats not rust. rust destroyed half my entire population of elephant garlic last year--something i cannot live without.

looks like rust though, good luck with diagnosis/treatment. i only wish you the best.
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Thanks all. Rust sounds like it, perfectly. I printed out the article on "How to Detect and Prevent Rust in Plants." I've repped those I'm able to and thanks the others. Sounds just perfectly like what's going on. She has one that was budding nicely but she nipped it? She's an excellent gardener, just needs to learn how to get the best out of these a little more. Don't believe it has the rust though. I'll have to check because they are in separate pots. I kid you not, there are hundreds. Maybe the stuff has been in there for a while because the cuttings I got never did well. I do believe I'll bring some seeds along with the printout-she doesn't have a computer. Would you recommend the good ones or not so good ones? I'm thinking along the lines of the not so good ones so we can verify it's gone. But if we get some new soil, it would be clean and we could start with the nicer ones.

I am interested in a good soil mixure recipe if anyone'd like to share? We could find a way to get a good garden going and we could use a large mixture if that's best. I have to filter the tap before giving it to my hydro girls so that really makes sense. Would she need one-probably a good idea because the soil would last longer before getting contaminated. In soil, how do you treat the soil? Throw it all away each, year? If it's just tossed out at the end of the year, it's not worth wasting 4 gallons of tap water to get 1 gallon of filtered water. Or can it recycled, adjusted, cleaned? That's part of the art of soil growing I haven't paid much attention to. Guess it's time.

Thanks again,
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Thanks all. Rust sounds like it, perfectly. I printed out the article on "How to Detect and Prevent Rust in Plants." I've repped those I'm able to and thanks the others. Sounds just perfectly like what's going on. She has one that was budding nicely but she nipped it? She's an excellent gardener, just needs to learn how to get the best out of these a little more. Don't believe it has the rust though. I'll have to check because they are in separate pots. I kid you not, there are hundreds. Maybe the stuff has been in there for a while because the cuttings I got never did well. I do believe I'll bring some seeds along with the printout-she doesn't have a computer. Would you recommend the good ones or not so good ones? I'm thinking along the lines of the not so good ones so we can verify it's gone. But if we get some new soil, it would be clean and we could start with the nicer ones.

I am interested in a good soil mixure recipe if anyone'd like to share? We could find a way to get a good garden going and we could use a large mixture if that's best. I have to filter the tap before giving it to my hydro girls so that really makes sense. Would she need one-probably a good idea because the soil would last longer before getting contaminated. In soil, how do you treat the soil? Throw it all away each, year? If it's just tossed out at the end of the year, it's not worth wasting 4 gallons of tap water to get 1 gallon of filtered water. Or can it recycled, adjusted, cleaned? That's part of the art of soil growing I haven't paid much attention to. Guess it's time.

Thanks again,
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First off, a good recipe:

1/6 top soil
1/6 peat moss
1/3 Sea Soil ( 68% organic matter )
1/3 perlite

Dolomite Lime as needed.


10 ML Insect eating Bat guano per 2 litres
10 ML Fruit eating Bat guano per 2 litres
One handful bone meal per few litres of soil.

*500 ml Rooters Mycorhizae
*50 ML GH Subculture

If you are worried about soil cleanliness it can be baked at 160* for an hour or two BEFORE adding the myco+subculture. This gives these beneficials a big head start as to colonizing your soil.

Once you have introduced these beneficials give them a 1 teaspoon-per-gallon Blackstrap Molasses feed the first time you plant, and then flush thoroughly the watering-after-next and you shouldnt have any fungal/bacterial problems.

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My friend does hydro predominantly but grows for his headstash soil organic. with this recipe, you wont have to ammend, all the stuff should be really easy to find, and I've smoked it and the weed tastes really good.

If you want something more complex I'll give ya what I'm working with now but It's a whole lottta stuff lol. The one I just gave ya should be perfect...

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Make a compost pile in the backyard and turn it every now and again. I use way too much dirt to do that, I would have a mt. kiliminjaro sized dirt pile in my backyard and people might start asking questions

Recently I have been throwing all my dirt away because of my thrip battling ~ there's just no way I can bake all that dirt so I've had to throw it all away as soon as I cut down... Fortunately, I'm gonna move and will start fresh with no bugs and prolly just do e&f anyway, I already have the 4x8's!


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Thanks all. The grayness is kind of what I was expecting. I found Pharm Girl's thread first and read it to my friend. She is familiar with the shrimp and mushroom compost's recommended. We'll work with the other recommendations also if necessary.

Xe. thanks for that info. That's along the lines I was thinking. Have you checked out Pharma Girl's thread? She says to add dog and or human hair for bugs. Have you tried it? It makes sense to me.
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Thanks all. The grayness is kind of what I was expecting. I found Pharm Girl's thread first and read it to my friend. She is familiar with the shrimp and mushroom compost's recommended. We'll work with the other recommendations also if necessary.

Xe. thanks for that info. That's along the lines I was thinking. Have you checked out Pharma Girl's thread? She says to add dog and or human hair for bugs. Have you tried it? It makes sense to me.
While sometimes hair can have some beneficial effects, I wouldnt trade a litre of Cold Pressed Virgin Neem Oil for all the hair in the kings land!
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