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Old 07-30-2007, 02:37 AM   #1
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im having a terrible problem with Capsid bugs it seems..

ive done some research to find it identical in appearance
to the damage almost every one of my plants has
to some extent.not to mention ive seen this sly little
bastards jumping from leaf to leaf.
slugs have also been a problem but ive kept them
at bay with safers slug bait , copper and beer..
im quite familiar with the damage they leave along
with a sticky trail!!

Also ive been spraying the plants (not in direct sunlight) with
BTK, Safers soap and neem oil..As often as possible due to the fact
its been a very wet summer thus far ..

Ive found nothing on this website about Capsid bugs ..

There is one product listed as Organic/Natural called
Vitax Py powder..

Supplier: Vitax

Formulation: Ready-to-use: powder

Notes: A fast acting insecticide based on African Pyrethrum for use on fruit, flowers and vegetables.
For Control Of: Greenfly, thrips, weevils, aphid, sawfly, whitefly, blackfly, leafhoppers, flea beetles, capsids, wasps and caterpillars in the garden, and ants, silverfish, cockroaches, houseflies, blue-bottles and wasps in the home.
For Use On: Py Powder can be used on ornamentals or edible crops one day before harvest.
Area Of Usage: Outdoor or glasshouse use.

I'll post pictures tomorrow due to the late hour .

however im sure its Capsid bugs if anyone can lend some sort of non
synthetic..effective remedies to deter these bastards..releasing of
other insects isnt going to work in these circumstances!

i imagine theyre not possible to totally rid of with any natural
remedies.. due to the amount of damage they inflict despite
heavy use of Pyrethreins and Neem as it is..

Possibly pepper sprays? or Tabacco?.. i just fear
those might damage the plants further.

what about other mildly toxic plants used in foliar sprays? i.e.
Coleous or Nutmeg...

Capsids jump from leaf to leaf quickly are about 1/4 inch in lenth..
light green in this case.. sucking the juices out of the leaves..
leaving holes in the leaves and making the tips crispy and deformed ..
its not pretty ! please help!!!

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Old 07-30-2007, 04:25 AM   #2
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That is a new bug for me, BC. Most info I could find says there are no commercial remedies available for them. Royal Horticultural Society says to use bifenthrin.

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Bifenthrin is an off-white to pale tan waxy solid, characterized by its slightly sweet smell. As a Restricted Use Pesticide, bifenthrin may only be purchased or applied by certified applicators or persons under the direct supervision of a certified applicator. EPA has registered bifenthrin for use on greenhouse ornamentals and cotton. Studies show bifenthrin to be relatively insoluble in water. Its half-life in soil can range anywhere from 7 days to 8 months depending on the soil type and the amount of air in the soil (ETN, Bifenthrin, 1995). Bifenthrin is one of a few synthetic pyrethroids that are relatively stable in direct sunlight. EPA has classified products containing bienthrin as toxicity class II (I = most toxic, IV = least toxic), and the word WARNING must appear on all product labels.

Bifenthrin is moderately toxic to mammals when ingested (oral rat LD50 = 54 to 70 mg/kg), and like all pyrethroids affects the central nervous system. Symptoms of poisoning include incoordination, tremor, salivation, vomiting, diarrhea, and irritability to sound and touch (ETN Bifenthrin, 1995). Although bifenthrin does not cause inflammation or irritation on human skin, it can cause a tingling sensation, lasting about 12 hours. A study on laboratory mice shows that bifenthrin causes gene mutation in white blood cells (ETN, Bifenthrin, 1995). EPA classifies bifenthrin as a Class C (possible human) carcinogen (EPA, 1997). Of concern in the environment, bifenthrin is very highly toxic to fish, crustaceans, other aquatic animals and bees, and is moderately toxic to birds. Scientists are particularly concerned about possible bioaccumulation in birds.
In the USA bifenthrin is a restricted use pesticide so it is not sold in garden centers or retail outlets. You may be able to find it in Canada.
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There are currently no products available recommended for the control of Capsid Bugs. from RUMWOOD NURSERIES
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All summer through I have problems with capsid-bugs. I have been told it's a huge group of sucking insects. They can be black, brown or green. I recognize some species of them and I kill them as soon as I see them. The problem is they are so quick I miss them. They fly rapidly from growing tip to growing tip. They look like an ordinary aphid, more or less, but are 2-3 times as big.
The damage they cause is not seen until weeks later. They suck from the very tip of the growing tip and the "leaf-embryos" become perforated and deformed when growing out. The leaves have holes in them and become crinkly. Buds drop.
The only cure I can think of is some kind of systematic poison that goes into the plant and kills the bug, but unfortunately they'll probably do the damage before they are killed. ANY SUGGESTIONS ARE WELCOME! from The Swedish Fuchsia Society
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The large and diverse insect family Miridae contains the plant bugs, leaf bugs, and grass bugs, and may also be known as capsid bugs. It is the largest family of true bugs belonging to the suborder Heteroptera, with over 10,000 known species and new ones constantly being described. They are small, terrestrial insects, usually oval-shaped or elongate and measuring less than 12 mm in length. Some are brightly colored, others drab or dark. Some genera are ant mimics at certain stages of life. Most of the more well-known mirids have received attention because they are agricultural pests. They pierce plant tissues and feed on the juices. from Wikipedia
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Sound like there familiar to bugs others have discussed but they also sound nasty as hell.
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theres definately been a decrease in attacks since i re-added BTk to the mix .. also the rain has ceased for the past couple weeks..giving me a break on the amount of spraying necessary.. BTK Neem and Safers pyrethrins.. seems to work if used after every rain . Except for slugs of course.

safers slug bait is also working well when reapplied every 2 weeks or sooner if rain washes it away before that.

ive also tied green coloured fishing line around the perimeter of the various plantations to steer away curious
predators .although flowers are setting in and with that bugs deminish and become much less active and dormant. They seem to disappear with the fall season as well as with the plants increased potency ...i cant wait !! its
apparent that potent flowers repel even the most destructive insects..like banana slugs and capsin bugs..or even deer and curious bears.. will likely be turned off by the rich skunk smell.

I'm sure theres mystery unnamed species of insects in BC forests nevermind obscure types like the 10,000+ species of Capsin bug..no one really knows how many there are ...just my luck theyre ruthless cannabis fiends!!! they should be renamed or aka Cannabis bugs!! the only strain with a chance of survival in this region naturally would be an early flowerer ..the sooner the buds set in the faster bugs will leave it alone.

as for some of my more cherised plants ive had for awhile.. ive grown them indoors until the preflowers set in ..then place them outside to avoid bug and animal problems. younger smaller plants are much more susceptible to these problems in general for the exception of auto flowering strains.. in these untamed circumstances smaller plants have a very high mortality rate .

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