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Old 07-19-2008, 01:40 AM   #1
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I've looked at the plant nursery guide, but i wanted also a diagnosis from u guys since many minds are better than one! So, the problem is a nutrient missing, one locked out or maybe not enoguh water( don't really think ^^ )?!?!?
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:03 AM   #2
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I first need more details about your grow. what are you growing them in? are they in a pot? how big is the pot? how long have they been in the pot? how often do you water them? how much?

at first glance it looks like something with your roots, which isn't a big problem, a good flushing, and some new dirt with more room to breath and it should take care of your problem. roots only use about 15cm to actually pick up nutrients, the rest of the root system is too covered in salts build-up to really be effective. if a plant stays in the same pot for too long its roots start to double over on themselves and blam, you've got funny looking leaves.'it starts sucking up all the salts from the older roots.

a good effective way to flush your plants is to fill your bathtub to the level of the dirt in the pot, then submerge the pot completely until the water seeps through the dirt. lift it out and let it drain for a few minutes. see all that yellow crap?? nasty salts. repeat the dunk a few times until your're satisfied that the water isn't too yellow anymore (it'll never be completely colour free, but you do want a substantial difference). you won't have to water them for a bit. watch your soil to know when you need to start your watering cycle again. put em in some new dirt and feel the love. cause they'll love you for it.

that is if you're growing in soil and pots, and I'm not sure that's you're problem. you could have also just given them too much water...or any number of thing really. it's hard to tell. but it's never a bad thing to give your lady's root system a bath and a bit of new dirt.
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Old 07-19-2008, 08:37 AM   #3
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There's a link for the Nursery Questionnaire in my signature. Copy and paste.
As a rule, I generally give my girls a good flush when I notice problems. Most Magnesium deficiencies are caused by low ph in the soil caused by a build up of nutes.
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Old 07-19-2008, 04:41 PM   #4
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1. Are you growing from seed or clones? seed
2. How old are your plants? 4 months old
3. How tall are your plants? about 60 cm
4. What size containers are they planted in? around 3 gallons
5. What is your soil mix?
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use? alternate days - tap water
7. What is the pH of your water?
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? got some mixed in the soil ( 12 - 12 - 17 ) and once one mixed in the water ( 7 - 5 - 6 )
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
14. What is the pH of the soil?
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
16. How much experience do you have growing? 1st time ^^
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Old 07-19-2008, 11:46 PM   #5
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you need to start ph'ing your nute solutions and get some decent water. Twisting leaves is a sign of unstable ph. Also, when the leaves look like taco shells, they usually need Magnesium, also caused by low ph.
You probably are over watering as well. Let your pots dry out. Lift them, pick them up. feel how light they are. Now water them completely, saturate the pots. Then lift them and feel the weight. You want to water when the pots are light.
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guys, i've flushed entierly the plants....but this one has still got probs.! HEK, i sure hope it won't die on me.....what can i do ?!?!? it seems getting worse every day..the leaves are going in all directions! XD
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:44 AM   #7
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guys, i've flushed entierly the plants....but this one has still got probs.! HEK, i sure hope it won't die on me.....what can i do ?!?!? it seems getting worse every day..the leaves are going in all directions! XD
first things first. get a PH tester. they're not too horribly expensive and you really need to make sure your water is between 6.7 to 7.2. including your feed water.

I'd put her in an at least 5 gal with new dirt, if you can I'd recommend 10gal.

buy a neutral medium (just healthy topsoil, no manure), clean peat moss, vermiculite and perlite.

mix 40% soil with 40% peat, 10% vermiculite 10% perlite. from my experience this has been a very successful mix for growing.

try and check the roots under very low light a bit as you transplant, but don't stress it too much, be very gentle. I use latex gloves. cut off any roots if they're rotten.

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put it under 12/12

don't give any nutes for the first day or 2.

then give her 8 - 2 - 6 for the first fooding

then every watering after the first fooding give her 10 - 8 - 9.5. these amounts are the amounts that I give. I use Bio-Bizz. bio-grow and bio-bloom

2 weeks before harvest stop giving nutrients and start flushing every other day until harvest.

hack the whole plant, hang it leaves and all upside down in a dark room with humidity around 60% and temp of about 55 to 60 fahrenheit and let it sit untill most of the stems will crack pretty easily. but not too brittle. about a week (7 days)

trim it up, put it in a paper bag for the next 3 days, turning the buds whenever you feel like it. then into glass jars. it's already smokable. open your jars once a day for at least a few minutes. you'll actually feel the weed kinda get wet again. it's sweating. that's good

keep opening your jars until it doesn't seem to sweat much anymore, then it's safe to seal em off and let em sit.


this is what I would do if I were you. there are other people much more knowledgable then I on this here forum, so if they don't agree with something, they're probably right

goodluck and let me know how it goes!

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Old 07-23-2008, 08:55 AM   #8
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what about under the leaves?

do you have anything under the leaves or is it nice and green?
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nope! not a think under the leaves! Last time i checked ( and it was this afternoon ) they were fine!
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I believe you have a general cations uptake problem going there. A severe lock out, as its affecting micro nutes.

I suspect it could be due to the tap water quality. Is it hard? Give as most info you have about it.

And think that although its possible to grow without knowing ph, if problems arise is very difficult to know whats exactly the problem without ph info. If your water is hard, than knowing and controling ph becomes esential.
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