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Old 08-06-2008, 06:41 AM   #1
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Spider Mites in Soil?
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Okay, so after I was sure I had an aphid problem, I did some research and discovered they are not aphids, they are spider mites! But here is the thing.... they are nowhere on my plant (that I have been able to find, and I've looked hard), the only place I have found them is in the soil (also found some spider mite eggs in soil). So I try to disturb the soil which brings them to the surface and them spray them with safers soap, but is there a better/ more effective way of killing them? I am in my 3rd week of flowering and don't want to loose my girl. Please helpme!
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:34 AM   #2
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Solution - Early detection of spider mites, before damage is noticed, is VERY important. The tiny spider mites can be detected only by a full and thorough leaf inspection (on both sides of the leaf). If you find Spider Mites you must act fast and hit them hard with either a bleach solution (1 tablespoon of bleach to 1 gallon of 95°F, pH balanced, water in a spray bottle.) or use a miticide with Abamectin or lindane in it. That seems to work best. There are insect predators that can help in providing some CONTROL but this does not mean 100% eradication and in a consumable crop that is what we are after. The predator mite can help to control them if chemical sprays are not your thing.
Taken from Stoneys Nursery Troubleshooting Guide, hope it helps
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:47 AM   #3
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thanks, is it ok to use the bleach solution or miticide if she's in flowering already? Like I said I have not found any on the plant itself, just in the soil, but I want to know incase I do find them on the plant.
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thanks, is it ok to use the bleach solution or miticide if she's in flowering already? Like I said I have not found any on the plant itself, just in the soil, but I want to know incase I do find them on the plant.
Hold up a min.. Bleach? in the soil? OMG! Noooooooooo

Do not us any bleach.. no bleach.. no bleach! Go get yourself some Safer's Insecticidal Soap for mites.. Spray her down good.. Make sure to get under ALL the leaves if you can.. Spray the soil as well.. Do a good flush.. Then re-nute once she is ready for more water..
Hopefully you will get them under control.. Spider mites do not just live in the soil.. They eat the leaves so they web along the veins and sometimes curl smaller leaves for protection. I have never really heard of anyone killing all the mites; but controlling them instead..
If this is an indoor grow then you will need to bleach down your cab once the girls are gone.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:29 AM   #5
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I have some safers soap, so I'll do that, will the safers soap effect the flowers? I mean, I'll try not to soak them, but is it alright if some gets on the flowers?
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Spider mites do not live in soil. It is possible that they are root aphids which are nearly indestructible. Another real and more benign possibility is that they are springtails. Springtails are harmless to your plants, root aphids are a major problem. Google them.

Soap spray will cause discoloration of pistils. Always make sure your plants are not thirsty before spraying with soap. Other than that it is very safe to use on your insect and mite pests.
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My original thought was that they were root aphids, but looking at one under a microscope, it looked more like a spider mite. So does anyone have any good info as to how I would get rid of root aphids? Will a flush work? should I repot my plant and try to remove as much of the soil as possible? I don't want to kill my 1st flowering plant, but I don't want the bugs to kill it either...
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Did you look up springtails? Beneficial nematodes and a product called Botanigard (Beauvaria brassiana) are supposed to be controls for root aphids. I don't have a source for the nematodes. That's your homework assignment once you have positively identified the insect.
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Thanks for all the input Buzzmobile,
I don't believe they are springtails, from the pics I've seen online, their bodies seem more elongated than the bodies of the bugs in my soil. Also, there has been damage to my plant. No visible signs of an insect attack (no discoloration, or chew marks) the leaves are intact, they just fall off, and the plant will start drooping. (no it's not underwatered). So if spider mites are not found in soil then I am left to believe they are root aphids. So... how do I get rid of them? Can I flush the soil? Can I transplant? I've already lost one plant to them during Veg, I don't want to loose this one since it's flowering.
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i use lemon juice diluted in water if the infection isn't that bad. i haven't used it but i wonder if hydrogen peroxide might help?? i know at least lemon juice is safe to get on your buds.
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