08-18-2008, 08:41 PM
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Hydro Growers: 1. Are you growing from seed or clones?seed 2. How old are your plants?12days 3. How tall are your plants?2-4inches 4. What type of hydro system are you using?hempy bucket 5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using?GH 3 pt Flora series 6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution?5.7 7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water?70ppm 8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution??140ppm but i slightly burned them with 220ppm n flushed them with 140ppm. only did 220 once n they showed little sign of burn then flushed with 140. 9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? 10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check? 11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check? 12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? yes nutrient solution of 140ppm 13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") 6 20w floro 14. How close are your lights to the plants?3-4 inches away 15. What size is your grow space in square feet?cab 16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?constant 80 f never over 85 f 17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?little black flies recently trying to crawl under the perlite. 18. How much experience do you have growing? Medium. this is my first hempy grow temps in cab are a usual constant 80-81f but never get over 85f. i started them out with 5.7ph 140ppm .5ml of G-B-M but i added 2.25ml of Diamond Nectar. they looked like they liked and grew a bit so i upt the next feeding to 5.7ph 220ppm 1ml G-B-M and 2.75 Diamond Nectar. they stayed with that for about 4 days and i noticed very little burn on 2-4 of them but they did have a big growth spurt, i had a lil of the same strength nutes mix left and gave it to them and then bitched out and flushed them slightly with a 5.7ph 140ppm 5ml of G-B-M but i added 2ml of Diamond nectar. i did that yesterday and now on about 4 of them the first single bladed leaves look like tacos n gettin worse. Some suggestions please    And this one is the biggest n healthiest but the leaves sort of look a lil faded out yellowish 
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08-18-2008, 09:23 PM
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| I've never seen tacod leaves that early so I'm not sure I would diagnose it this way cut and dry, but normaly its a Mg deficiency. If you want to treat it that way, (and I dont think this will hurt even if it isn't the case) you can drop the pH to 5.5 where Mg is more readily available. Maybe even add just a smidge of cal-mag if you've got it.  
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08-19-2008, 07:25 AM
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| Hmm, that's a puzzler, Moe, I tend to agree with OSGS, a little cal mag won't hurt. I have a White Russian strain that seems to tend toward Mg deficiency, but no, never that early.
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| they look fine, seems like a burn more than a deficiency to me.
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Agreed. Not uncommon for a seeding.
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08-19-2008, 04:17 PM
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| so the burn makes the leaves look like tacos? i looked at 1 today and it looked like it curled tacod way more.i know i burned them and i dont have cal-mag will have to wait another day or 2 to go to the hydro shop cuz they close early and i hit lots of traffic. how much cal-mag should i apply? tahnks all for your diagnosis Moe
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08-19-2008, 05:04 PM
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| If it's getting worse, flush (but be gentle).I think young veggers like that, at least here, are in a more delicate stage. If it is indeed nute burn then adding cal-mag probably isn't wise. Why? Because a proper feeding regimen should supply all that the plant needs... Got to correct the underlying situation first or you could end up correcting the corrections.  If it's nute burn like you say then ph is all out of whack most likely and it will have a very hard time taking up other nutrients too.
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08-19-2008, 05:09 PM
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| Just read that you flushed them at 140 ppm after 220 ppm burned them. Flush with no nutes. Wait until they recover. If they aren't recovered yet they're not going to be much happy with nutes period IMHO.
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08-19-2008, 05:16 PM
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| the new growth does not look burnt and i think you should just let them do their thing IMO they've already recovered.
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08-19-2008, 05:49 PM
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| Agreed, new growth looks good. Moe, the ph is low for a hempy. 6.0 or 6.26 buddy. Ph changes outside of optimum will impair the absorption of certain nutrients/nutes. The sweet spot covers the range where all elements are absorbed. If the ph drifts above or below that too much for too long then the corresponding elements can't be absorbed on that part of the spectrum. See Stony's ph chart, it will be in people's sigs. It's only a soil and hydro chart, but even with you growing Hempy you'll see the concept of the sweet spot for ph.
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