Dumbfk420

Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones? clone
2. How old are your plants? 3 weeks
3. How tall are your plants? 5-6 inches
4. What size containers are they planted in? 16 oz party cup, then transplanted into a one gallon
5. What is your soil mix? FF Ocean Forrest
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use? I water when it needs to be, every 3 days maybe and I use water from the sink
7. What is the pH of your water? 6.6pH
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? FF line of nutrients
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? nope
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") 2 x 42w CFL
11. How close are your lights to the plants? 2-3 inches
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? .6
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space? between 82-88F and 30-55%
14. What is the pH of the soil? unknown
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? nope
16. How much experience do you have growing? couple years

Well for the past two weeks, a clones I've taken off my mother plant is just getting worse and worse. I've been trying to only change one thing at a time but just can't figure it out. I will post pictures and it looks like over watering but I can assure you that its not.

My plant just overall has been very droopy and when I don't water it, it looks like its really about to die. The bottom leaves are yellowing and and have signs of necrosis on the tips. The whole entire stem on my plant is very dark purple and is the same on the leaf stems also. I just really can't figure out why its doing this. I thought it could've been rootbound so I transplanted. I can see on the bottom of my container that the roots of growing great after the transplant so I can rule that out. Then I thought maybe because I didnt have a fan and not enough wind simulation this could be a cause. I put a fan in the grow case and still nothing. Well It wasnt given any nutrients at all since it was taken off the mother so I gave it 1/2 strength FF Grow Big nutrients and no signs of improvment. I really don't know what to do. I want to maybe give it some H202 because I thought that maybe the roots haven't been getting enough oxygen. Does anyone have any other suggestions, Im open to everything. I know the pictures arent very great but I can't find my camera so I had to take them off my blackberry. Thanks for any help you can offer me.


Keep Growin & Be Safe

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Freakshow68

how often are you feeding? A plant that size shouldn't be fed anything yet. Also, you need to be ph'ing yoru nute solutions when you do feed. FF nutes tend to be very acidic. I would flush, then transplant into a bigger container with fresh soil and nothing but plain water for the time being

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Dumbfk420

I've only given it a 1/2 strength nutrient mix that I made in a gallon milk jug. I put 1/2 tsp FF grow big in a one gallon jug and I always pH balance my nutrient solutions. One thing though, I have a hannah pH pen but I threw away the directions and can't remember how to calibrate it. I've only calibrated it the first day I bought it, which was about 6-7 months ago.

I transplanted when this problem was happening in the first place and was givng it pH balanced water at 6.5 - 6.5pH for 2 weeks before I even attempted it feed it nutrients as the fresh soil should have some it in. Also I forgot to mention that the leaves are very lime green and don't know if this information helps at all. You think I should still transplant again or should I maybe try a new approach? Im thinking something could be locked out? Im not sure if a flushing would help or not in this situation

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Freakshow68

the ph of the soil is most likely very low due to nute build up in the soil. This causes nute lockout. Check St0ney's Ph Chart in my signature and you will see. Start over in this order:
flush like crazy
transplant
plain water only until the plants tell you they are hungry

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indicapro

FFOC soil likesa ph of 6.3i found with my use of FFOF soil that as long as you arent trying a TLO environment with bennies and such, then a ph of 6.5-6.8 is recomended and if you are using TLO you will find the ph will kinda be whatever you water it at (6.3 for instance) it will be 6.3 for a day maybe and slowly drift upwards to 6.8, which is good in a TLO root zone, but if using straight chem. nutes i would stay at 6.1-6.3.

Dumbfk420

Thanks everyone. I'll flush the plant today and see how that goes. I really just don't understand why its doing so bad.

I have the plant I took the clone off of in flowering at 3 weeks tomorrow and it looks great. It was my last silver haze seed and I just love how the trichs cake on so thick. I only took this clone and just want to be able to keep a mother and get on a small cycle of maybe 1/2oz every two weeks. Thanks for your imput because i've just been dealing with this for almost 3 weeks and I just didnt know what to do.

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mattdreads

half ounce every 2 weeks??



not possible my friend.

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uvshock

Try this for instructions on calibration for your meter. Even though the hannah's usually stay pretty solid, I've had some issues relating to lack of calibration: Don't Hate...Calibrate!

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reach420

You know, your soil looks dry enough, but the plant looks like it's been overwatered to me. A recently transplanted young plant doesn't drink much - is it getting a chance to dry down toward the bottom of the soil? Just a thought.

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Sso

lou cypher does this trick where he lowers (or raises, forget) the ph.

what it does is halt the foliage growing, but keeps the roots going. he does this to age them, but keep em short, then he raises the ph and voila off they go into flowering. ( a foot plant with the root system of a 3-4 month old plant, plus a truly ready plant to flower)

i say this, because you say the roots are growing fine. then like some said, probably a ph problem.

wouldnt worry overmuch on this, they can come back from the damndest things. and if it is the same thing as lou does on purpose?