thc4me2

The last weekend of May, I germinated 5 lowryder seeds. Actually, only 4 germinated. I took all four plants and put them in Jiffy pellets. After the first set of true leaves began to grow (just a few days later), I planted two outside and put 2 inside in a grow box with 2 15-watt LEDs and 1 32-watt CFL.

It's now been nearly 3 weeks, and the plants simply aren't growing.

Outdoors I planted them in my vegetable garden. They get nearly full sun. They are in a mix of peat moss, compost, and good potting soil. We had a decent amount of rain the first two weeks and I've been watering them when needed since the rain tapered off. The rest of the plants in my garden are doing great, including tomato, pepper, squash, sunflower, herbs, eggplant, okra, etc. Now, when I say "aren't growing" I mean this: yes, a couple extra sets of small leaves have grown, but by and large the plants are still about 2" tall. I have not fertilized other than one application of a weak solution of root stimulant and superthrive about a week ago. They look nothing like the pics I've seen online.

Indoors, about a week ago I transplanted to jiffy pots with some decent soil. I've watered with a very weak solution of root stimulant and some superthrive. Several times I have given the plants a short vacation under a 400 watt MH unit that I have. I can't use it all the time for stealth reasons. The plants indoors look no better and possibly worse than the plants outside.

It's been very hot outside - over 90 every day.
Inside, the temp is usually in the upper 80's.

I've grown before and never had this problem. I'm skeptical that I'm going to get anything off of any of the plants. I have two seeds left that I haven't tried to germinate and if I try, I'm wondering what approach to take to have better luck.

What could the problem be? The seeds seemed a bit on the immature side, but I expected more. This is the first time I've grown anything other than bag seed, and needless to say I'm disappointed. I'll try to post some pics, but it's hard to do this on the sly with my son hanging around and neighbors on all sides.

Advice? Sorry but I don't know the PH of my water, but that shouldn't matter as I usually water with rainwater collected in a rainbarrel.

EMj

Ok, Welcome to the Garden!!

Sounds like the temps are too high indoors for sure. Also it may be a case of overwatering. By that I mean watering to frequently. Let the pots dry out and become light before watering again. A pic would help a lot.

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Here are two photos of the one remaining LR2. Plant looks healthy, right? But the thing is, it's 4 weeks old today! It looks more like it's 10 days old, not 28!

This plant has been raised outside, gets nearly full sun (some shade in the morning), and I've taken to bringing it in at night where it's under a 32 watt CFL and two 14 watt LEDs.

I know these are supposed to be dwarf plants, but even so, this is teeny and isn't showing any signs of flowering. Since this is the only plant left - the other died from a lack of water, despite my watering it every other day or so in a raised bed. When I pulled it up, it had barely any roots to speak of. This one has perked up in the past week, but I still can't figure out why it's growing so slowly.

Any ideas?

In the pic, you can see a little spider under one of the leaves. Cute lil guy.

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thc4me2

Looking at the pics I posted, is anyone able to give me an idea of what went wrong with my LR2s? Is it possible that I just got a runt - just the luck of the draw? I've germinated my last 2 seeds, hoping for better luck, and if there's something I did wrong the first time around I'd like to know about it.

I germinated using paper towels. Then transplanted into jiffy pellets. After a few true leaves had grown, I transplanted them into pots. At that point I could see no roots pushing out of the jiffy pellets, and the plants that have died had virtually no roots, even though I watered them when necessary (and not too frequently) with rain water and gave them some root stimulants - a very weak solution.

My remaining plant has started to grow faster, but I have no idea what to expect now since it's technically been growing for over a month and is due to start flowering any day now. And, of course, it's a 50-50 chance that the one plant I have is a male. No sign yet of any flowering. I have started some LST and am still hoping for the best.

Allglad

So far I only have done Diesel Ryder from Lowryder & AK47 from Lowlife. With a 2nd run at AK go'n, and now I have started Nirvana Slow Rider. My best experiences so far are inside grows, but am anxious to do a few runs of auto's outside next year start'n in spring.

For me I am better inside (my fault for not being knowledgeable and responsible outside in the past).

With all that and all the reading I have done..and my experiences I plan on starting all grows inside unless I decide to experiment, run out of space or what ever.

... I think starting inside is tops..then go'n outside after they are stable and hardened. I dont know about how often you have take'n them in and out. I would think swapping them to much with big temp differences would be bad.

Donno all your proceeders are. Maybe a questionnaire would be a good idea.

I would even prefer starting inside under almost any lights except HID's.

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Ever hear of acid rain? your container can affect PH too

BCGuerillaGrowa

Did you use lime to counteract the pH of the peat? That could be the problem . Your soil looks like it's got to much peat moss not enough drainage.

Lord K.

From my personal experiences... autoflowerers can be quite finicky. Because they have such short lifespans they dont really have a chance to recover from any screw ups. You've gotta get everything right from the get go or theyll get stunted easily.. Since they only veg for a matter of a few weeks before they flower theyve gotta have optimal conditions to grow as much as possible before they flower.. stress them too much in that short veg time and theyll stunt at the drop of a hat. Soooo with autos.. Id suggest NOT training them in anyway, NOT transplanting them ever (plant in final container from begining which is OK with autos cause they dont need big containers), and NOT moving them inside/outside and whatnot.. Just my autos are not a great plant to start with for newbies, either.

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That's what's interesting about these forums and others - I've seen the exact opposite advice, "LST is a MUST for LR2 if you want a decent yield!"

My plant has now shown some sex - it's a girl - but is still very very small (like 4"), so I'm not expecting much at all. Meanwhile, my other seeds have sprouted and one already has a root coming through the bottom. In a few days I'll decide what to do with it.

I tested my rainwater with one of the liquid pH test kits and it came back about 6, so I think that's okay. I can't help but conclude that I just got a runt. Perhaps my new sprouts will perform more like I expected.

Lord K.

Grats on the girl! Hopefully the other ones will take off a little bit better. I've seen some pretty good yields in autos without any sort of training... look up nickbag5's hydro journal.. he pulled 4oz from one auto.

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