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Old 08-04-2009, 07:24 PM   #1
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lower leaves are yellowing, then darkening/crisping up, and dieing.... could this be a ph problem, nute def, or what? not to sure.... the top of it looks gernerally healthy besides for the little curls at the tip of sum fan leafs and dark veins, can anyone also tell me out to fix that, im buying sum good ajusted ph water tomowrow, round 7.. i also have Neptune's Harvest ORGANIC FISH FERTILIZER (2-4-1) nutes, havent used really any yet, should i start to feed it small doses starting next watering? here are sum pics

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Old 08-04-2009, 07:34 PM   #2
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You need to give us more details.

Can you fill out the nursery questionnaire? Thanks.

We need more info than what you've given us.
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^what he said. but if i was to guess...pH.
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:52 PM   #4
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You need to give us more details.

Can you fill out the nursery questionnaire? Thanks.

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yah i already have....


1. Are you growing from seed or clones?- Seed
2. How old are your plants?- 2-4 week range
3. How tall are your plants?- about 3 inches, but it was streching at first so i burryed the stem a bit when it was a baby
4. What size containers are they planted in?- a pretty decent sisze pot, like 3 gal?
5. What is your soil mix? Scotts premium potting soil:

0.07-0.01-0.03
Total nitrogen...............0.07%
0.04% Ammoniocal nitrogen
0.03% Nitrate Nitrogen

Availble Phosphate........0.01%
Soluble Potash..............0.03%

CONTINOUS feeding up to full 4 months
(i know, not the best soil)

6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?- Water about every 2-3 days
7. What is the pH of your water? - im not so sure, im using miejer spring bottled water, but im going to wall mart tomwrow to buy there drinking water and its ajusted to around 7
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?- Neptunes fish oil organic fert (2-4-1) havent used any yet...
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?- no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")- one 65 watt soft white CFL and two 14 watt soft white CFL's (total of 93 watts)
11. How close are your lights to the plants?- about 1.5-2.5 inch range
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?- the whole area is about 2 by 3 feet but i dont use all the space.
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?- unknown, not to humid or hot, room temp i geuss
14. What is the pH of the soil?- not sure, its off im pretty sure
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?- a little bit
16. How much experience do you have growing?- not much, i grew a couple plants before, but was just messing around and seeing what i could do..


i wasnt thinking to post this with a new thread... my bad
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Small plants like yours should be in 20 oz. solo cups.Do you have more then 1 plant per pot?They look overwatered to me and not very healthy.Add more light if possible.
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the medium looks really dry. you need to get a handle on your ph. that soil has added nutes? seedlings don't need any feed for the first couple weeks, so you may be seeing problems because of this. they kind of look hungry too...
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Try giving them a nute with more nitrate. Yellowing lower leaves is a common nitrogen deficiency. It looks like your giving them a bloom nutrient with more phosphorus then nitrogen. Maybe they are hungry and in the veg stage they really enjoy nitrogen and it helps with plant stress. Try some superthrive that stuff kicks ass with stressed plants. Also like you said keep that PH under control. Always 7.0 w/ or w/out nutes. good luck buddy!

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i cut those lower leaves off totaly but now the newest ones at the bottom (well the oldest) are now seem to be doing it, here are some pictures, i am feeding it Neptune's Harvest ORGANIC FISH FERTILIZER once very other watering, more or less? i have also stoped watering as much, i probuly water it every 3-4 days.... i also got sum water perfered by sum one that has a good ph.... but i just started watering with it a couple days ago... here are the new pics...
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No need to cut off leaves. Doing that will just make whatever problem you have spread to the next ones. Its like a domino effect and its pointless.

Dont worry about cutting off the bad leaves, worry about preventing them from going bad.
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I see purple stems ( P deff), and the burned part is P working its magic

I see what looks like Mag deff with the intervein yellowing. use epsom salts at 1 tsp per gallon til that dissapears, then step it down like 1/2 the 1/4 then 1/8
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