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Old 08-18-2009, 02:08 PM   #11
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I may be able to with the FLO. It still seems somewhat together. The 2 BD's look extremely wilted, so I don't know how that will work out. I've never tried cloning before, so it's a little intimidating. But it sounds a lot better than letting them go to waste.

What page is the pic of your sick plant on in your journal? I want to see if I'm in a similar position to try my luck at cloning.


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Here is the link. I meant it as a reference for plant health. I pulled clones off it 2 days after what you see there. It was sitting in my kitchen waiting to be thrown out when I thought I'd take cuts. It was more wilted than you are seeing in that pic.
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Here is the link. I meant it as a reference for plant health. I pulled clones off it 2 days after what you see there. It was sitting in my kitchen waiting to be thrown out when I thought I'd take cuts. It was more wilted than you are seeing in that pic.
Wow. Ok, I think I still have a shot. My plants aren't as big, but I think I can manage something. Thanks a lot, Zoom Boom! I've never cloned before, so I guess I'm going to pick up some cloning gel and starter plugs today as well.

Olivia's cloning gel should do the trick, you think?
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Wow. Ok, I think I still have a shot. My plants aren't as big, but I think I can manage something. Thanks a lot, Zoom Boom! I've never cloned before, so I guess I'm going to pick up some cloning gel and starter plugs today as well.

Olivia's cloning gel should do the trick, you think?
There is more than one way to skin a cat. I've never used Olivia's, but I know people who use it with success.

Search through the propagation forums and make sure you get a decent handle on things. Remember, you still have time to do a little research.
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I've got some rooting plugs, cloning gel, and some Hygrozyme. The Hygrozyme can be used during all growing stages, which is what the FS claimed. Still leary, yet this product is natural and uses no chemicals. It also claims to have beneficial enzymes which the FS did not and maybe would help to improve things. I may have destroyed them when I introduced the FS. When describing my issues, the dude said it sounds like lock out. I think this product is designed to break that down so nutrients can be used.

I'm going to check out Lou's cloning thread. I still need a humidity dome for the clones. I was thinking of making something from a rubber maid 5-10 quart tote and add holes on top.

Thanks for all your advice, ZoomBoom
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I've got some rooting plugs, cloning gel, and some Hygrozyme. The Hygrozyme can be used during all growing stages, which is what the FS claimed. Still leary, yet this product is natural and uses no chemicals. It also claims to have beneficial enzymes which the FS did not and maybe would help to improve things. I may have destroyed them when I introduced the FS. When describing my issues, the dude said it sounds like lock out. I think this product is designed to break that down so nutrients can be used.

I'm going to check out Lou's cloning thread. I still need a humidity dome for the clones. I was thinking of making something from a rubber maid 5-10 quart tote and add holes on top.

Thanks for all your advice, ZoomBoom
Yeah, without pics at crunchtime, I really don't think there is an option. So many unknowns as well. Without the meters and such, pinning down an absolute vector would be damn near impossible.

Do what you can, but make sure they have enough life left in them to clone when all is said and done.
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I just checked on them now, the FLO is looking perky again and the BD1, which was the first to wilt, is looking like she's slowly regaining her balance. They felt light this morning so I watered them with RO water. Although BD2 is still "hungover" and the leaves are now looking crispy, yet still green. I watered it with RO water right now, hoping it will deliver some moisture back to the leaves.

Once I get things back to normal I will take clones. If BD2 does not regain her footing, should I take her top as a cutting? I doubt her limbs are strong enough to rebuild much of anything, but the her trunk? is still keeping things up right.

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I just checked on them now, the FLO is looking perky again and the BD1, which was the first to wilt, is looking like she's slowly regaining her balance. They felt light this morning so I watered them with RO water. Although BD2 is still "hungover" and the leaves are now looking crispy, yet still green. I watered it with RO water right now, hoping it will deliver some moisture back to the leaves.

Once I get things back to normal I will take clones. If BD2 does not regain her footing, should I take her top as a cutting? I doubt her limbs are strong enough to rebuild much of anything, but the her trunk? is still keeping things up right.

I need to spend time figuring out how to post images securely here. Sorry for the hassle.
I was under the impression from your first post you just flushed...had I known that they were wilting and they felt light, then I would have suggested you water them.

If they are wilting from lack of water, then give them time to regain turgidity. If they come back, don't worry about the clones unless you want to get those clones started vegging while your other plants flower. in which case you can also take a cut from a lower branch if the strain doesn't take well to topping.
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Well, yes, I flushed them out recently. But considering the reservoir at the bottom of the "hempy" styled cups/pots is only about an inch deep, the water seems to go fairly quickly. They felt light, so I was assuming the hydroton needed to be hydrated again.

When the initial symptoms occured with the two BD's, it had been right after I had just fed them. So it definitely wasn't due to lack of water.

I'm reading around finding out about Hygrozyme success and horror stories. It seems to be ok, considering it's organic. If BD2 does not come back soon, I will test the Hygrozyme on that one to see how things go.

With all these problems happening lately, I'm really considering cloning just to preserve things incase things go to hell, fast. I may be able to clone BD1 but BD2 does not look like it can handle it just yet.
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Well I tried out some Hygrozyme and things seem to be turning around. BD1 is looking perky again, her leaves are a nice juicy green color. BD2 is struggling but hanging in there.

She's standing up right again and some of her leaves are reaching for the sky. I'm going to continue to nurse BD2 because I think she can make it back to health. Enough for me to get some cuttings from her, anyways.

My FLO is doing good, I don't know how her roots are looking but hopefully the Hygrozyme will fix things. I went and pruned out the completely dead foliage to help the plants focus on more of the healthier limbs.

We'll see how things go
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