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Old 08-21-2009, 04:32 AM   #11
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Not quite sure wtf you are doing wrong

But what I do know is that to be good at anything, ESPECIALLY THIS, takes patience and understanding, which you are greatly lacking

This is the best advice I can give you
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Well here is a 24 hour update. Plant is still droopy though. Here are the TDS levels that I recorded over a 24 hour period:
620
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632
630

My PH never seemed to move out of range though. In 24 hours it always seemed to stay yellow(6.0) range. I bumped up ppm to 800. Well here are some pics. those lower leaves are getting worse. Can I say N and Ca deficiency? Maybe Mg? Anyway to fix this, or is it too late. I am gonna go pick up some bioroot and CaMg+
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Your ppm is what I call stable. A 10 point difference is really no difference. That's good that the pH is stable too.

My small hempy bucket (solo cup) plants ALWAYS droop too & it is supposedly inpossible to over water a hempy bucket. But they ALWAYS grow out of the droop and become beautiful plants.

You really just need patience!
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In 24 hours it always seemed to stay yellow(6.0) range.
Do you have a meter? If you don't, you don't really know what your pH is. Especially when using PBP and even more especially if you are throwing in Liquid Karma. You are trying to detect subtle shades of yellow and green in a brown liquid. I thought I could do this to. Then I learned precisely which strains were most susceptible to Cal/Mag problems due to pH lockout. Get a meter, especially in hydro.

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Skip the pub and buy a meter. If using RO, don't even think about not using Cal/Mag IMO. You have to correct problems quickly, but doing too much at once can cause problems of its own. Keep in mind too that 600 ppm isn't quite accurate because of the organics. In a res with nothing more than RO, 5ml/ga Cal/Mag, 10ml/ga LK and 15ml/ga (half recommended strength) of Grow, my meter is already at 2000ppm. Jump up nutes and go over 2000, well, who knows what the ppm is. My meter won't tell me.

I forgot to quote the cat who said to stop foliar feeding w/water. I agree. Not neccesary and can cause problems with overwatering symptoms (especially if it is raining outside and RH goes up), like droopy leaves.

A little more food, a meter, no misting and leave them be for a couple of days or three with only solution ppm and pH checks and adj.
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