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Old 11-02-2008, 11:27 PM   #1
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I'm having a devil of a time controlling temps. I'm getting ranges like 59 - 79, or 64 - 85. Around TWENTY degrees difference. I've tried putting a heater right outside of the intake vents, and raising the temp of the entire room the growroom is located, with only moderate success. I don't dare put the heater in the room with the plants as the coils would glow too bright, I would think. (Right?)

I am seeing the dreaded stretching of my girls, esp the ones closet to the door of the growroom. But honestly... I don't see whats so bad. They're growing great, absolutely nothing looking unhealthy. My room is 5x5x8 and even with a 1000w, I don't think they'll out grow the room. Is that the big threat? Running out of room before they finish?

What to do -- Are the glowing coils too bright, or shall I invest in a new space heater that blows warm air without the coils? Is the high 50's too low for my babies? Should I close the intake vent?


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Old 11-02-2008, 11:53 PM   #2
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that's the big threat... burnt plants from the lights... not enough height.

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Old 11-03-2008, 01:19 AM   #3
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it also gives your wacky bud formations later. which is pretty much cosmetics I guess, but I would think the further the plant has to push fluids and nutes the more the plant will have to work to do that making it more difficult to transport what the plant needs.

plus you have a greater risk of limbs snapping when it starts putting on weight. I would personally invest in one of those saftey base board heaters and find a way to put it near your entrance where the more cold is coming in. maybe even just find a way to attach it to your door so it opens with it. and I'd recommend weater stripping on your door as well, not only will it help with smell, but insulation as well, helping maintain your temps. are there any windows in your room? and hardware stores they have a plastic window insulation. "shrink to fit window film"
it works wonders for windows, and will also help a lot in maintaing even temps. they have pretty small baseheaters, and I'll bet you could find one that would work. I think a small base heater at home depot was something between 25 and 40 bucks. not too horrible, and they hvae a built in thermostaat. they work great.

once you get your temps a bit more stable, you'll see much more growth happening overnight.

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it also gives your wacky bud formations later. which is pretty much cosmetics I guess, but I would think the further the plant has to push fluids and nutes the more the plant will have to work to do that making it more difficult to transport what the plant needs. .
, i think its on the weight of the budz once the plant gets into the final flowering, but mattdreads is very much right snapping of limbs is a big one.
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I'm getting ranges like 59 - 79, or 64 - 85. Around TWENTY degrees difference.
My room is 5x5x8 and even with a 1000w,
Is the high 50's too low for my babies? Should I close the intake vent?
Mad with an 8' ceiling you do have some height to play with, so I wouldn't worry about that, unless you veg them for too long.

About bringing up the temp a little higher, the answer is front of you.
Your 1000w light is your best heater when it's ON.
Extract a little less or bring less cool air inside the room and the light will warm up the room.

Most of temp problems can be corrected with the extractor & ventilation system, instead of a heater or A/C.

What is the humidity in the room, when temp is low, and how many plants are growing in there?
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Stretch can be a problem when the nugs are too heavy for scrawny, overextended limbs to hold up.
Not that supporting a limb with heavy buds is all that much of a task.
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i would defiantly act fairly quickly , the temp. problem can cause hermi issues, the quick fix would probably be to invest in that new heater without the bright coils.

But at the same time you dont want the humidity to drop from having it in "the room"(coils burn moisture), so i would leave it just outside the intake, like you stated, so that it brings in warm fresh air and see if that dosnt work!
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stretching isnt much of a problem, unless you have a small space and lots of plants and a small light. some sativa strains just happen to grow very tall very fast, and some growers sometimes mistake that for stretching. most unwieldy stretching occurs when a grower induces the 12/12 flowering period, then the plant seems to go through a stretching phase, some strains are worse then others, and even within strains, there are variations of stretch, even if strain itself is bred to contain least amount of stretching possible. this phase usually only lasts about a week or two at most. it will stop stretching.

are you still in veg mode? or are you flowering now? how tall are they now? are you hydro or are you soil?

i dont think the heater is glowing bright enough to cause any problems. i have flickering lights from power strips, years old, that dont do anything to the plants.

depending on the strain, the stems might snap from the weight of the buds. depends on how big the buds get, depends on how big or hearty the stems get. some strains can hold up the weight of their own buds no problem, some strains do not. i use bamboo stakes to help support plants and buds if they get heavy, just stick a stake in the container/medium and twisty tie the branch to it. that usually works just fine, and you only need it for like 3-4wks.
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a light pinch on the grow tips will also slow/reduce streching. quite lightly, just kind of hold it between your fingers for a couple seconds. make sure you have freshly clean hands or latex gloves on. I've always thought oils from humans couldn't do any good for it.

I agree it's not a horrible problem and pretty easy to control anyway.

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a light pinch on the grow tips will also slow/reduce streching. quite lightly, just kind of hold it between your fingers for a couple seconds.
You could also pinch it completely off, which would allow the other branches to grow evenly with the main top, all in all slowing it down to at least 1/2 the growth..
I personally do that to my plants. i dont have alot of grow room though.
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