Mad

'K, this is fourth grow. In past, would germinate dozens of seeds to get twenty good seedlings to veg in five gallon buckets in soil. Once started to flower, and yanking the males, ended up with between eight and twelve females to flower in 5x5x8h chamber. This grow saw two significant differences: Now using FoxFarm nutes instead of Miricle Grow, and finally tried the Banana Religion.

One word: WHOA!

First off, never seen such phenominal growth. Whomever is perpetuating the myth that one can grow MJ with MG must stop! It's a damn lie! FF is so clearly preciely what your plants want and need, why fake yourself with that chemical Mircle Grow? Bet this harvest loses its metallic taste!

The second, and more pressing issue is one week into flower and it looks like each and every plant is a girl!!! Don't have room to flower TWENTY FREAKING HUGE GIRLS, do I? As it is, the buckets are literally edge to edge, in a 4x5 arrangement, which was fine when was culling 40% - 60%, but what if they are all girls? (What if, indeed!) Already they are overflowing the buckets margin, and the chamber is just a jungle of goodness.

What to do? Just let them all go, and hope for a bunch of colas, or strike 4 of them, making for a tight 4x4 array, allowing a wee bit more grow room? How to decide which to cull? The tallest, fastest growing, longest internode distance ones, or the shorter, less vigorous ones?

What a dilemma!

Thanks for your wisdom and advice


- Mad, not angry

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Not angry? You are batting 1000 on girlies. I'd be rubbing one out right now.

Why don't you cut each of them and root them for your next grow? That way you can thin them out, but keep some material idling in veg. If you want to know which ones from seed to keep, keep the ones that clone the easiest.

Fantastic luck you are having! -CR

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I'd go with some form of SOG or ScROG, if you can, taking clones of all of them. Then, when the final product is cured, test it, then keep the ones you liked best.

Of course it'll take you a month to effectively test all of them, with 20 different ladies to sort thru!!

Congrats on the ladies.

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Mad

Thanks for the replies, gentlemen, but never asked shit about cloning. The question is: what to do about so many females? Should I remove some so the others have more light? Or should I just let it grow wild? If some are to be culled, how do I choose which ones? Cut the tallest ones, that may prove too rapid growing they may out grow the room? Or shall I strike the shortest ones, as they wont produce as much?

Really a simple question an experienced grow should be able to help. Not one word about cloning.

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I would let them grow. If space is a serious issue keep the biggest, most vigorous plants. You can always lst the biggest ones, you want vigor.....directly affects yield.

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Yeah, sorry about the cloning remark. I realize now how offensive it was.
You asked, what should I do? Keep em or cull some?
I said, keep em, some form of scrog/sog.
Sorry I replied- I know see I must not be as experienced as you as well.

Mad, not angry my ass

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swordfish

Suggesting allowing for another grow chamber to be built is the same as suggesting a bunch of clones should be taken. This would reqire a second grow area and this was not presented as an option in Mads original question. Hell if I know the answer other than doing an add on. Situations like your describing has caused me to upgrade over the years but that's not your concern at the moment. I would put some thoughs into why not find some more room but that may be impractical or to expensive for you at the moment.
Suggesting additional equiptment purchaces and building another grow chamber for the amount of plants you have is indeed not germaine to your situation about which plants should I cull? These are just my thoughts. I gave some away once when that happened to me.

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I would either kill the 4 smallest or 4 of medium height. More experienced growers may be able to chime in on which ones are most likely to be the weakest yielders.

I wouldnt cram them in. Your grow conditions are obviously much better than before so your plants will be much better. I wouldnt think cramming them in would get you anything but a room full of stressed plants (at worst)

hard to say without more experience really

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Mad

Telling you, its kinda scary the way they are already taller than anything ever grown before. Decided to go with a 4x4 array and just harvest a bit each week starting at week eight of flowering.

In the past, hated to see too much light reaching the chamber floor, but now, its DARK under the canopy. Should the lower leaves, getting zero light, be trimmed to increase air flow? If the electric fan is removed, will have a bit more space to work with: Is the fan that essential, esp in Autumn?

Thankx!

- Mad

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I'll say it again, this time without the offensive "C" word.

You have more female individuals than you can finish, right? You don't know which ones are worth finishing in your confined space, right?

Cuts take up a lot less space than plants, right?

My suggestion was not to clone them for production, but rather to keep tissue from each individual alive until you can finish the plants.

Culling individuals, that is ending their lives BEFORE you can see how they finish, is guessing, pure and simple. You might as well flip a coin. If you keep tissue alive from each, you can finish EVERY individual over the course of 2 or more cycles. That way you're not guessing.

If you want to be rude and tell me that I'm not answering your question the way you like, go ahead.

You can choose to grow like a consumer, or you can stop guessing and actually finish the plants. Either way, be nice please. This is an all volunteer community. Getting a reply back from someone you tried to help in the form of an insult takes the fun out of it.