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Old 10-28-2009, 03:26 PM   #1
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So, according to the Co2 enrichment guide...

"Standard growing conditions typically include concentrations of CO2 at 300-500 ppm, temperatures between 65-80°F, and relatively low humidity (20-40% rH). Studies have shown optimal growth and yields at 90-95°F, 1,500 ppm CO2, 45-50% relative humidity, 7,500-10,000 lumens/square foot of light, and vigorous air movement both above and below the canopy. CO2 enrichment under 80°F, under 7500 lumens/sf, or above 50% humidity is not recommended because plants will not be conducting photosynthesis quickly enough to benefit from the enrichment."

Can anyone else who uses Co2 tell me what temperatures and humidity you shoot for?

I feel like 90-95 temp and 45-50 humidity is kinda high. Maybe its just because im so used to active air ventilation. Im just looking for some input here.....thanks!
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90-95 degrees optimum? I'd like to know what studies the authors of that guide are referring too.

In general, we should aim for 75 - 85 degrees on the leaf surface of the canopy and 50-60% relative humidity.

You might want to read this study. I think it's the Gold Standard of research for us right now.

Photosynthetic response of Cannabis sativa L. to variations in photosynthetic photon flux densities, temperature and CO2 conditions

Suman Chandra1 , Hemant Lata1, Ikhlas A. Khan1, 2 and Mahmoud A. Elsohly1, 3

(1) National Center for Natural Product Research, School of Pharmacy, University of Mississippi, Oxford, MS-38677, USA
(2) Department of Pharmacognosy, University of Mississippi, MS-38677 Oxford, USA
(3) Department of Pharmaceutics, School of Pharmacy, University of Mississippi, University, Oxford, MS 38677, USA
Published online: 26 February 2009

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The rate of photosynthesis (PN) and water use efficiency (WUE) of Cannabis sativa increased with photosynthetic photon flux densities (PPFD) at the lower temperatures (20-25 oC). At 30 oC, PN and WUE increased only up to 1500 μmol m-2s-1 PPFD and decreased at higher light levels. The maximum rate of photosynthesis (PN max) was observed at 30 oC and under 1500 μmol m-2s-1 PPFD. The rate of transpiration (E) responded positively to increased PPFD and temperature up to the highest levels tested (2000 μmol m-2s-1 and 40 0C). Similar to E, leaf stomatal conductance (gs) also increased with PPFD irrespective of temperature. However, gs increased with temperature up to 30 oC only. Temperature above 30 oC had an adverse effect on gs in this species. Overall, high temperature and high PPFD showed an adverse effect on PN and WUE. A continuous decrease in intercellular CO2 concentration (Ci) and therefore, in the ratio of intercellular CO2 to ambient CO2 concentration (Ci/Ca) was observed with the increase in temperature and PPFD. However, the decrease was less pronounced at light intensities above 1500 μmol m-2s-1. In view of these results, temperature and light optima for photosynthesis was concluded to be at 25-30 oC and ~1500 μmol m-2s-1 respectively. Furthermore, plants were also exposed to different concentrations of CO2 (250, 350, 450, 550, 650 and 750 μmol mol-1) under optimum PPFD and temperature conditions to assess their photosynthetic response. Rate of photosynthesis, WUE and Ci decreased by 50 %, 53 % and 10 % respectively, and Ci/Ca, E and gs increased by 25 %, 7 % and 3 % respectively when measurements were made at 250 μmol mol-1 as compared to ambient CO2 (350 μmol mol-1) level. Elevated CO2 concentration (750 μmol mol-1) suppressed E and gs ~ 29% and 42% respectively, and stimulated PN, WUE and Ci by 50 %, 111 % and 115 % respectively as compared to ambient CO2 concentration. The study reveals that this species can be efficiently cultivated in the range of 25 to 30 oC and ~1500 μmol m-2s-1 PPFD. Furthermore, higher PN, WUE and nearly constant Ci/Ca ratio under elevated CO2 concentrations in C. sativa, reflects its potential for better survival, growth and productivity in drier and CO2 rich environment.
That was conducted with RH at 55% +/- 5% at all times.

30c and 55% RH = 2.31 Vapor Pressure Deficit

Interestingly enough, I've read elsewhere that tomatoes do best with a temp of 28c and a 2.25 VPD, which is not far off.

Here's a nice little paper on VPD from a couple researchers at Ohio State: Greenhouse Condensation Control: Understanding and Using Vapor Pressure Deficit.
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