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Old 03-14-2001, 04:28 PM   #1
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Hey im going to be growing in my friends house, and i got 9 KB seeds, and im looking for the best soil... Can anyone help with what kind of soil i should use? Also, can anyone recommed any good lights that i can pick up for cheap?
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hey man KB seeds...where did you get those from? i named my dog kb but on the subject i would go for HPS (as you should know by now or HID, flo's really dont produce too good of a yield but i use them for side light..for soil, well the soil i use is called potting soil but i heard that mircle grow made a decent kind but i may be wrong.I would just check around,how are you planning on germinating them?well good luck and keep us posted...
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i got the seeds from a bag i bought off this one kid... crystals all over the bud, and stong pine taste... Well i dont think we can afford HPS, though i keep telling him we should save up for one, but were still jobless little punks so we dont got too much money we are thinking of putting a shop light against the wall going up the wall in the corner of the grow room... and adding a few more lights(we also have a 75w circular fluoro light...) Im just gonna put the seeds in the soil and drown the plants till they pop out... it worked for me 100% last grow i had... but unfortunatly all of our lights dropped and smashed on the plants and killed them...*DOH!* Lates
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This time I hope you know better to hang those flouros more securely. Your lucky your plants being crushed is all that happened. I think you should still save some money on the side to afford a descent HPS. A gooding potting soil that I like to use is Whitney Farms Premium and I also buy their perlite. The perlite aids in proper drainage of the soil when watered (also good for lowering the risks of mold or fungus growth). I use about 1/4-1/2cup perlite for every cup of potting soil. As for germination, I just put those babies 1/4-1/2inch deep, cover it up, and given proper environmental care within 48hours I have myself happy sprouts and a nice healthy tap root.
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at last.. a germinating programme i can deal with!

all these guides about wet paper towels and exact tempertatures and this soil.. and that nutrient etc etc.

im glad it can be done the easy way.

right then.. ill whop in the seeds an tip the water in... thats enuf aint it.

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Childish -- Although germinating using the wet paper towel method works and is most widely recommended, I do find that the less I have to handle those fragile sprouts the better their growing cycle proves me.

I also like to plant the seed directly into a large conatiner allowing the tap root to get off to a good start. Just make sure it receives no light til it sprouts and place in temperatures that range anywhere from 80-90 degrees. It'll probably still sprout at lower temperatures but expect quite a delay. Also make sure you don't keep the temperature that high after it sprouts, rather have it balance around 75 degrees. Good luck--> ~SP~
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Over that side of the ocean (America) u guys work on farenheit right?

im talkin degrees C (celsius) are you? if not what is it in C?

thanks though poe.. good simple advice... its all a newbie really wants! instead usually if u ask a simple question people just talk jibberish at you and totally confuse you .

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yeah we use Fahrenheit or however you spell it... Hey, any idea on how much Perlite is? sounds interesting... how do you mix it in with the soil then? Just mix all the soil your going to use together?
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Hey guys,

Just thought I would put my .02¢ in...

The paper towel method, although tried and true, can be dangerous. If you are using seeds that are abundant, i.e., a bunch from some dirt weed, then it's no biggie. However, if you are dealing with good seeds that are harder to come buy, i.e., those that you purchase, or some from a good bag of kind bud, then I really wouldnt recommend using the method.

The pH level in paper towels, the vast majority, is way off of neutral, usually acidic. So, its a good way to kill the seeds before they have a chance to grow, or give them some sort of handicap to deal with later.

The very best way to germ is the Au Naturale way.... just pop them about .5 inch into good, lightly mixed soil, add water, a little heat (i use a lava lamp ), and patience. That way, you dont have to touch them at all, and you can be sure that they will do well if you take care of them!

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Follow this guide and I think you will be happy with your results. Please don't deviate from it, as all cultural factors have been considered to insure your success. Uncle Ben

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Your seedlings will be alot better off if you germinate directly in soil - less handling and mechanical disturbance means less chance of physical damage to the plant's taproot and less food reserves used to orient itself due to the natural hormonal influence called Gravitropism.

This is one of my favorite methods for Seed Germination in soil:

Soak the seed in plain water for 12 hours prior to planting which will speed up germination. Good seeds will sink, bad seeds will largely remain floating after this extended soak. I first sterilize seeds in a bleach solution (1 Tbsp. bleach/1 gallon of water) for 1/2 hour to kill any fungus residing on the seedcoat.

Sterilize enough *damp* soil with heat to germinate all of your seeds. You can do this by treating the damp soil to temps of 240F for 20 mins in a conventional oven, or in a microwave oven on high for 2 minutes, while stirring a couple of times and let cool. This will insure that damp-off fungus spores have been killed in the soil mix. Make sure the soil mix is light and humusy (but not real coarse). You can add a little sand or vermiculite to aid in drainage and weight. Stay away from perlite, it has a nasty habit of floating out of the mix when watering (along with your seeds).

Buy some white 20oz styrofoam "drinking glasses", commonly called "Styro-Cups", and punch holes in the bottom (and side) for drainage. I use a red-hot ice pick for this. These containers are 6 1/2" tall and will allow ample room for the taproot to grow before cotyledon emergence which will increase your seedling's vigor. The taproot (radicle) is already at least 4" long at the point of emergence - don't cramp it. These cups are found on the shelf displaying picnic items at your local grocery store.

Fill the pots almost to the top with your soil mix, water well to settle the mix, take a pencil and make a small hole about 1/4" to 1/2" deep, NO deeper, and drop *one* seed in. Cover the seed with *fine* soil, only enough to top up the hole, firm lightly with your finger, and lightly water until water runs freely thru the drain holes. Place in a warm spot around 82F/28C.

During the first couple of days, mist the top soil surface lightly (if need be), never allowing the top 1/2" to dry out, but not to the point that the medium stays waterlogged which will invite rot. Do not water anymore until the seedling is up, and only if it needs it at that point. No need to cover with plastic wrap as the radicle will grow at least 4" before the cotyledons emerge from the soil. IOW, even though you can't see it, the plant's root is seeking and finding moisture at the container's lower soil levels.

That's all to it! This method is pretty much foolproof. With good care, your fave will be ready to transplant within 1 to 2 weeks, and will easily slip out of the "cup" with a solid rootball that will never know it's been disturbed if potted up gently and quickly. Move up to a final pot of 3 to 5 gallons to sex and finish. An effective transplant solution can be made using 1 teaspoon of a 15-30-15 fert and 10 drops of Superthrive per gallon of water. Take note regarding the immediate growth spurt after this transition!

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