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Old 08-06-2008, 12:54 PM   #11
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47, you nailed that on the head Buddy.
Absolutely correct, too much stress. (Transplant shock)
My clones do the same thing when I take them off the cloning dome and put them in 6" pots.
So, I keep the domes for at least another week on or until the plants start pushing up to the dome.

GroweroftheDank look at the pick that I posted.
Those are seedlings right after been transplanted to 6" pots but I do the same thing to clones.
I put a solo cup over them for a few days.
The light still goes through so no harm to keep them a little longer domed.
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I think more perlite in the mix might help, though I'm not sure if that's your clone problem. That kitty litter (basically the same thing, I think, I looked at it in your link) looks awfully fine and dense, perlite lets oxygen to the roots. Just a thought.

PS I would never dream of cutting away the peat on something that small, those little root hairs are so tender at that age, I wouldn't even breathe on them
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The mix is 50% perlite/50% turface..I know the top of the mix looks like there's not a heck of a lot of perlite in it, but I purposely put a higher amount of turface on the upper 1cm of the bucket to hold down the perlite in the rest of the bucket. Do I sound crazy? It does keep the perlite from floating up when watering later on i've found.

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GroweroftheDank look at the pick that I posted.
Those are seedlings right after been transplanted to 6" pots but I do the same thing to clones.
I put a solo cup over them for a few days.
The light still goes through so no harm to keep them a little longer domed.

Do you put any holes at all in the solo cups or just prop them up a bit at the bottom? Can't tell from the pic but I'd think there's got to be some air exchange. Mine are too big for solo cups but maybe a 2 liter bottle cut in half..I'll go fish one out of the recycle bin now lol
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:18 PM   #14
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Do you put any holes at all in the solo cups or just prop them up a bit at the bottom? Can't tell from the pic but I'd think there's got to be some air exchange. Mine are too big for solo cups but maybe a 2 liter bottle cut in half..I'll go fish one out of the recycle bin now lol

No I don't open any holes on the solo cups.
Sure if your plants are bigger a bigger dome will be the answer.
I open the domes two times a day for them to breath a little air for about 10 min, then I spray them with some water and the dome is back on them.

Your main problem though was that you cut the pellets and you shock them a bit, but no biggie, they will grow out of it soon.
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No I don't open any holes on the solo cups.
Sure if your plants are bigger a bigger dome will be the answer.

Tada! I christen thee, the 'droopy dome!' Ain't that the saddest looking charlie brown clone you've seen?
http://www.gardenscure.com/420/attachment.php?attachmentid=244012&stc=1&d=1218051516

The other clone is looking better already compared to 24 hour ago..doesn't even need a droopy dome me thinks.
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Glad to be of help Buddy.
If you need any help with the hempys look at tripps thread, he does wonder with those buckets as many do here.
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GroweroftheDank, IMO your really don't want to give any nutes till the roots take hold. At least till they start alternate node sets. Again, thats just my opinion. It is a tested time and true step though. Very few people nute them this early and can get away with it. I for one don't want give myself another problem with the ladies to have to deal with. If you set yourself up for a possible problem, then eventually it will rear its head friend. KISS is the best method unless your trying to test a idea. (keep it simple...you know) I will at times push it just to see what happens, but deal with the consiquensis' when I set myself up for desaster When you cut the cube away you could see how delicate the roots are. Now hit that with nutes before it has time to recooperate from the removal from the cube and light exposer and new environment, just a combination for problems friend if you ask me Hope you can find something out of this to help!! Now grow them puppies like you did last year!!

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GroweroftheDank, IMO your really don't want to give any nutes till the roots take hold...
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Yep, I'm well aware of the danger of nutes too early. But one thing I've found out about this NLxBB strain is that its a complete nute WHORE. When I vegged the grandmas of these clones ( they're 2 weeks into flower now ), I was amazed at the level of nutes I could throw at them with ZERO nute burn on the tips of the leaves. Im talking up to 1500+ PPM.
I use a calibrated Hanna meter to test. This strain also seems to love the ph around 6.5. They grow in veg very fast..must be the NL in it.
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Yep, I'm well aware of the danger of nutes too early. But one thing I've found out about this NLxBB strain is that its a complete nute WHORE. When I vegged the grandmas of these clones ( they're 2 weeks into flower now ), I was amazed at the level of nutes I could throw at them with ZERO nute burn on the tips of the leaves. Im talking up to 1500+ PPM.
I use a calibrated Hanna meter to test. This strain also seems to love the ph around 6.5. They grow in veg very fast..must be the NL in it.


One thing that popped in my head while I was doing some watering outside was Why don't you TRY a different clone jelly? What might be happening is that the wound area might be closing up due to either expired jelly or even some type of "alergic" reaction.

Another idea might be to resterilize your equipment before cutting. Perhaps you have a minor bacterial infection on your sheers and are feeding them directly into the wounds with each cut. The bacteria invade before the cutting has the energy to defend against it.

More .

I hope they pull through!

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All 3 clones pulled through..and are stretching toward the light!
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By then end of October, they should be looking like this:
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